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Why not peace in Ukraine

Not for the tabloid minded

Blackjack
Blackjack Male
6 months ago
The Empire of Lies all but gave the whole game away. There’s no intention whatsoever in Washington to facilitate a peace plan in Ukraine – and that explains Comedian Zelensky’s non-stop stalling tactics. The supreme target is regime change in Russia, and for that Totalen Krieg against Russia and all things Russian is warranted. Ukraine is just a pawn in the game – or worse, mere cannon fodder
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This also means that the 14,000 deaths in Donbass for the past 8 years should be directly attributed to the Exceptionalists. As for Ukrainian neo-Nazis of all stripes, they are as expendable as “moderate rebels” in Syria, be they al-Qaeda or Daesh-linked. By now only the brain dead across NATOstan – and there are hordes – are not aware of Maidan in 2014. Yet few know that it was then Ukrainian Minister of Interior Arsen Avakov, a former governor of Kharkov, who gave the green light for a 12,000 paramilitary outfit to materialize out of Sect 82 soccer hooligans who supported Dynamo Kiev. That was the birth of the Azov batallion, in May 2014, led by Andriy Biletsky, a.k.a. the White Fuhrer, and former leader of the neo-nazi gang Patriots of Ukraine.

Together with NATO stay-behind agent Dmitro Yarosh, Biletsky founded Pravy Sektor, financed by Ukrainian mafia godfather and Jewish billionaire Ihor Kolomoysky later the benefactor of the meta-conversion of Zelensky from mediocre comedian to mediocre President.

Pravy Sektor happened to be rabidly anti-EU – and politically obsessed with linking Central Europe and the Baltics in a new, tawdry Intermarium. Crucially, Pravy Sektor and other nazi gangs were duly trained by NATO instructors.

Biletsky and Yarosh are of course disciples of notorious WWII-era Nazi collaborator Stepan Bandera, for whom pure Ukrainians are proto-Germanic or Scandinavian, and Slavs are untermenschen.

Azov ended up absorbing nearly all neo-Nazi groups in Ukraine and were dispatched to fight against Donbass – with their acolytes making more money than regular soldiers. Biletsky and another neo-Nazi leader, Oleh Petrenko, were elected to the Rada. The White Führer stood on his own. Petrenko decided to support then President Poroshenko. Soon the Azov battalion was incorporated as the Azov Regiment to the Ukrainian National Guard.

They went on a foreign mercenary recruiting drive – with people coming from Western Europe, Scandinavia and even South America.

That was strictly forbidden by the Minsk Agreements guaranteed by France and Germany and now de facto defunct. Azov set up training camps for teenagers and soon reached 10,000 members. Erik “Blackwater” Prince, in 2020, struck a deal with the Ukrainian military that would enable his renamed outfit, Academi, to supervise Azov.

It was none other than sinister Maidan cookie distributor Vicky “F**k the EU” Nuland who suggested to Zelensky – both of them, by the way, Ukrainian Jews – to appoint avowed Nazi Yarosh as an adviser to the Commander-in-Chief of the Ukrainian Armed Forces, Gen Valerii Zaluzhnyi. The target: organize a blitzkrieg on Donbass and Crimea – the same blitzkrieg that SVR, Russian foreign intel, concluded would be launched on February 22, thus propelling the launch of Operation Z.

So - there’s no difference whatsoever between white neo-Nazis and brown-colored al-Qaeda/ISIS/Daesh, as much as neo-Nazis are just as “Christian” as takfiri Salafi-jihadis are “Muslim”.

When Putin denounced a “bunch of neo-Nazis” in power in Kiev, the Comedian replied that it was impossible because he was Jewish. Nonsense. Zelensky and his patron Kolomoysky, for all practical purposes, are Zio-Nazis.

Even as branches of the United States government admitted to neo-Nazis entrenched in the Kiev apparatus, the Exceptionalist machine made the daily shelling of Donbass for 8 years simply disappear. These thousands of civilian victims never existed.

U.S. mainstream media even ventured the odd piece or report on Azov and Aidar neo-Nazis. But then a neo-Orwe
tsunamiwarrior
tsunamiwarrior Male
6 months ago
WASHINGTON — The Treasury Department on Thursday leveled new sanctions on Russian technology companies and illicit procurement networks that the country is using to evade existing sanctions, expanding the Biden administration’s effort to punish Russia for its invasion of Ukraine by crippling its economy.

The new measures reflect the challenge that the United States and its allies continue to face in enforcing restrictions that have been imposed to cut off Russia’s central bank, financial institutions and oligarchs from the global financial system, and the need to disrupt Russian supply chains and efforts to conceal transactions.

“Russia not only continues to violate the sovereignty of Ukraine with its unprovoked aggression, but also has escalated its attacks striking civilians and population centers,” the Treasury secretary, Janet L. Yellen, said in a statement. “We will continue to target Putin’s war machine with sanctions from every angle until this senseless war of choice is over.”

Among the 34 organizations and individuals targeted are Serniya and Sertal, Moscow-based companies that illicitly procure dual-use equipment and technology for Russia’s defense sector
tsunamiwarrior
tsunamiwarrior Male
6 months ago
The Treasury Department is also imposing sanctions on several technology companies that produce computer hardware, software and microelectronics that are used by Russia’s defense sector. Among them is Joint Stock Company Mikron, Russia’s largest chip-maker.

Adewale Adeyemo, the deputy Treasury secretary, foreshadowed the sanctions during a speech on Tuesday, when he said that Russia’s military industrial sector would be the next to face restrictions.

“We are planning to target additional sectors that are critical to the Kremlin’s ability to operate its war machine, where a loss of access will ultimately undermine Russia’s ability to build and maintain the tools of war that rely on these inputs,” Mr. Adeyemo said in his speech at Chatham House, an international affairs think tank in London. “In addition to sanctioning companies in sectors that enable the Kremlin’s malign activities, we also plan to take actions to disrupt their critical supply chains.”
tsunamiwarrior
tsunamiwarrior Male
6 months ago
How Russia Is Using Ukrainians’ Hunger as a Weapon of War
Residents of Mariupol, Ukraine, described how they are surviving a monthlong siege of the southern port with little food and other necessities. “No roof, no food and no water,” survivors texted relatives.
tsunamiwarrior
tsunamiwarrior Male
6 months ago
When Vladimir Putin shattered the peace in Europe by unleashing war on a democracy of 44 million people, his justification was that modern, Western-leaning Ukraine was a constant threat and Russia could not feel "safe, develop and exist".

But after five weeks of bombardment, thousands of deaths in ruined cities and the displacement of more than 10 million people inside Ukraine and beyond, the questions remain: what is his aim and is there a way out?

What was Putin's goal?
The Russian leader's initial aim was to overrun Ukraine and depose its government, ending for good its desire to join the Western defensive alliance Nato. But the invasion has become bogged down and he appears to have scaled back his ambitions.

Launching the invasion on 24 February he told the Russian people his goal was to "demilitarise and de-Nazify Ukraine", to protect people subjected to what he called eight years of bullying and genocide by Ukraine's government. "It is not our plan to occupy the Ukrainian territory. We do not intend to impose anything on anyone by force," he insisted.

This was not even a war or invasion, he claimed, merely the fiction of a "special military operation" that Russian state-controlled media are required to adopt.

The claims of Nazis and genocide in Ukraine were completely unfounded, but it was clear Russia saw this as a pivotal moment. "Russia's future and its future place in the world are at stake," said foreign intelligence chief Sergei Naryshkin.

Russia's military aimed to sweep into the capital Kyiv, invading from Belarus in the north, as well as from the south and east.

Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov spoke of freeing Ukraine from oppression, while Ukraine's democratically elected President Volodymyr Zelensky said "the enemy has designated me as target number one; my family is target number two".

But Ukraine's fierce resistance has caused heavy losses and, in some areas, driven Russian forces back.
Jeff
Jeff Male
6 months ago
Blackjack: "Ukraine is just a pawn in the game – or worse, mere cannon fodder"
Ukraine's civilians and civilisation are just cannon fodder and missile fodder by the Russian invasion.

Blackjack: "The target: organize a blitzkrieg on Donbass and Crimea – the same blitzkrieg that SVR, Russian foreign intel, concluded would be launched on February 22, thus propelling the launch of Operation Z."
There is no reliable evidence for that.
The West waited for the Russian invasion before they imposed sanctions. Russia didn't wait for an (imagined) attack against Donbass and Crimea before Russia invaded Ukraine. I repeatedly asked you (and others) whether you criticised Russian attacks outside the Donbass region, but as usual you never answered.
The Russian invasion of Ukraine, and its subsequent massive destruction of cities, is against international law.

Blackjack: "This also means that the 14,000 deaths in Donbass for the past 8 years should be directly attributed to the Exceptionalists."
That is false. You and another keep repeating similar lies as if 14,000 deaths in Donbass were caused by one side, a "genocide" as Putin lied.
I have repeatedly pointed out that the ~14,000 consists of approx:-
- 3,400 civilians - but I don't know how many were killed by Ukranian government forces and how many by separatists;
- 4,600 Ukranian government forces;
- 5,700 separatist forces;
- 500 Russsian armed forces (before the Russian invasion), who shouldn't have been fighting in Ukraine.

Blackjack: "When Putin denounced a “bunch of neo-Nazis” in power in Kiev, the Comedian replied that it was impossible because he was Jewish. ... That was the birth of the Azov batallion, in May 2014, led by Andriy Biletsky"
Zelenskyy being Jewish is only one of the factors that a "bunch of neo-Nazis" is not in power in Kiev.
You have been repeatedly that the Azov batallion is a low percentage of the Ukrainian military, and that Andriy Biletsky is practically ineffective politically. But you're not interested in facts.
See thread "Liberals are Nazis that must be destroyed" midsummerseve.com/fora/thread.aspx?threadid=199236&page=1 on 08-Mar-22 at 08:55 & 08:59.
These show that Putin was lying, as he did in other ways too, and you keep repeating those lies.
Blackjack
Blackjack Male
6 months ago
Jeff and your flushed down the toilet friend who I shall from now on refer to as TOILET it suits him better don't you think.


Please do not post again on any of mmy subjects they are not for people like you - YOU RUIN THEN CONTRIBUTE NOTHING but if you are trying to be the biggest BORE on this platform - YOU WIN - you are the biggest unoriginal BORE.
capnblackbeard
capnblackbeard Male
6 months ago
do you have any facts to back up that jeffs a bore ?
Blackjack
Blackjack Male
6 months ago
I think he does a pretty good job ot all by himself please read his durges
tsunamiwarrior
tsunamiwarrior Male
6 months ago
Jeff Sex icon 1-Apr-2022 15:56
Blackjack: "Ukraine is just a pawn in the game – or worse, mere cannon fodder"
Ukraine's civilians and civilisation are just cannon fodder and missile fodder by the Russian invasion.

Blackjack: "The target: organize a blitzkrieg on Donbass and Crimea – the same blitzkrieg that SVR, Russian foreign intel, concluded would be launched on February 22, thus propelling the launch of Operation Z."
There is no reliable evidence for that.
The West waited for the Russian invasion before they imposed sanctions. Russia didn't wait for an (imagined) attack against Donbass and Crimea before Russia invaded Ukraine. I repeatedly asked you (and others) whether you criticised Russian attacks *outside
the Donbass region, but as usual you never answered.
The Russian invasion of Ukraine, and its subsequent massive destruction of cities, is against international law.

Blackjack: *"This also means that the 14,000 deaths in Donbass for the past 8 years should be directly attributed to the Exceptionalists."

That is false. You and another keep repeating similar lies as if 14,000 deaths in Donbass were caused by one side, a "genocide" as Putin lied.
I have repeatedly pointed out that the ~14,000 consists of approx:-
- 3,400 civilians - but I don't know how many were killed by Ukranian government forces and how many by separatists;
- 4,600 Ukranian government forces;
- 5,700 separatist forces;
- 500 Russsian armed forces (before the Russian invasion), who shouldn't have been fighting in Ukraine.

Blackjack: "When Putin denounced a “bunch of neo-Nazis” in power in Kiev, the Comedian replied that it was impossible because he was Jewish. ... That was the birth of the Azov batallion, in May 2014, led by Andriy Biletsky"
Zelenskyy being Jewish is only one of the factors that a "bunch of neo-Nazis" is not in power in Kiev.
You have been repeatedly that the Azov batallion is a low percentage of the Ukrainian military, and that Andriy Biletsky is practically ineffective politically. But you're not interested in facts.
See thread "Liberals are Nazis that must be destroyed" midsummerseve.com/fora/thread.aspx?threadid=199236&page=1 on 08-Mar-22 at 08:55 & 08:59.
These show that Putin was lying, as he did in other ways too, and you keep repeating those lies.**

Good honest post Jeff.
Blackjack
Blackjack Male
6 months ago
Hey toilet water - please do not comment on my posts - you have nothng to say are vacuous adn go and ply with Jeff he is you type, - a bit of a creep - so very much like you - Go and strt your own posts ar have you nothing to say which from you record calling you vacuous seems to be spot on -

So good bye toile water - go and get you 4th jab like a good little boy - I support people having the vaccine, mabe get a booser too get the protection you need only 4.8 million diseased
NoSaint
NoSaint Female
6 months ago
tsunamiwarrior Male Hertfordshire
1-Apr-2022 15:18 new Message #4880935
How Russia Is Using Ukrainians’ Hunger as a Weapon of War
Residents of Mariupol, Ukraine, described how they are surviving a monthlong siege of the southern port with little food and other necessities. “No roof, no food and no water,” survivors texted relatives.


Putin is out of control.
NoSaint
NoSaint Female
6 months ago
tsunamiwarrior Male Hertfordshire
1-Apr-2022 15:18 new Message #4880935
How Russia Is Using Ukrainians’ Hunger as a Weapon of War
Residents of Mariupol, Ukraine, described how they are surviving a monthlong siege of the southern port with little food and other necessities. “No roof, no food and no water,” survivors texted relatives.


Putin is out of control.
SQL
SQL Male
5 months ago
Poor old Flatpack, even when the rest of the world understands the situation in Ukraine and Russia, he does not and is completely deluded, thinking scumbag Putin to be a world saviour.

And of course he has to resort to insults to reply - such a sad case. If only he had the intelligence to realise his situation and react accordingly. I expect Neversa...etc. will be along soon to provide much needed (but useless) words of help.

SQL
FBF_Peace
FBF_Peace Male
5 months ago
Not that I disagree but was it seriously worth making the post? The thread had laid dormant for more than a week.
Kimjongun
Kimjongun Male
5 months ago
He run out of masks,
Greencare
Greencare Female
5 months ago
It's good that some can find humour in the Ukraine situation or feel a few daft comments on the thread are a worthwhile contribution.

Just my humble opinion.
Kimjongun
Kimjongun Male
5 months ago
Have you ever asked yourself why we only see 1 war on mainstream news?
Other wars only seem to get a passing mention.
One way or another ,this government is sending millions to Ukraine.
While our own people face fuel poverty.
Just my humble opinion.
NoSaint
NoSaint Female
5 months ago
Over the years I have seen dozens of wars on mainstream news and at the moment the prominent one is in Ukraine. I would be more surprised not to be seeing it.
Kimjongun
Kimjongun Male
5 months ago
The prominent one?
Unfortunately there are wars all over the world.
Yemen, Palestine, Syria, IS still very active around the world.
MrQuiet
MrQuiet Male
5 months ago
I don't think that anyone doubts Ukraine is the prominent one in the news at present but as you quite rightly say there are many wars and conflicts happening right now all around the world.
MrQuiet
MrQuiet Male
5 months ago
I don't think that anyone doubts Ukraine is the prominent one in the news at present but as you quite rightly say there are many wars and conflicts happening right now all around the world.


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