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One of the reasons why certain scum should be wiped out....

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tumbled  Male  Gloucestershire
8-Jan-2021 18:54 Message #4802816
It never takes the scammers long....They're everywhere.......

Rid the World of scammers.....Evil pieces of shite....

Latest one on the BBC website:-

A fraudster claiming to work for the NHS injected a 92-year-old woman with a fake Covid-19 vaccine, City of London Police has said.

Detectives are hunting the man who charged the victim in Surbiton, south-west London, £160.

Police said it was "crucial" he was caught as soon as possible as he "may endanger people's lives".

Det Insp Kevin Ives described it as a "disgusting and totally unacceptable assault".
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Hierophant  Male  East Anglia
8-Jan-2021 18:58 Message #4802817
Yep, as someone whose elderly parents were recently scammed in a quite incredible way, I can understand how distressing this stuff is.
People will scam anybody and unfortunately the elderly are more vulnerable.
There are scam texts going around regarding vaccination too, so we all need to be careful....
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Kimjongun  Male  South Yorkshire
8-Jan-2021 19:36 Message #4802819
Not just money in this case, it is endangering life.
Hope they catch the scum, and get him on this more serious charge.
What was actually in the needle?
was the needle contaminated etc?
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Pboro Trevor  Male  Cambridgeshire
9-Jan-2021 11:06 Message #4802868
More on-line scams now because of Covid.

Just be careful out there people.

Trevor
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Blackjack  Male  South Yorkshire
9-Jan-2021 11:44 Message #4802881
I could not believe this story, its screamed of propaganda, so looked it up, and behold pictures, to back up the facts!!!

So who the hell took them? Granny rushed about and in seconds snapped the person outside as walking past not from the house?? Wheelchair fired, Stanner stairlift on jet speed setting, Camera in hand as she sped at lightening speed to top window , or did she ran up the stairs like a gazelle with the camera in hand? WHO TOOK THE PICTURE?

Sometimes people look and they fail to see, just accept on trust.

Why has she not been on the news as they love this sort of thing, asking questions HOW DO YOU FEEL ABOUT IT and other inane questions.

So granny just went to her purse took out £160, possibly a tip as well for Christmas, and the guy did not rob her of the rest of her money?

So it does not really make sense when one digs into it.

What was she injected with, why not sent to hospital for hepatitis for a check up?

The more one looks into this story the more implausible it seems - so many holes in this story, I cannot believe people swallow this without one single question.

The BBC is the mouthpiece for the government, its licence is always used to blackmail it, it complies, does bugger all objective reporting, but feeds us with emotionally charged tit bits psychologically moulded to create an EMOTIONAL reaction….which is the point …emotional means you feel it, and thus it feels real, no need to question it, as your guts have already reacted.

People accept what they are fed without question - Its like taking sweets from babies. I t also exposes something deeper in those that react to such a base instinct - they would make perfect lynch mob material!
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SQL  Male  Devon
9-Jan-2021 12:39 Message #4802885
Blackjack - 9-Jan-2021 11:44

The BBC is the mouthpiece for the government, its licence is always used to blackmail it, it complies, does bugger all objective reporting, but feeds us with emotionally charged tit bits psychologically moulded to create an EMOTIONAL reaction …. which is the point … emotional means you feel it, and thus it feels real, no need to question it, as your guts have already reacted.

Well if that's the way you react to the BBC news then maybe (just maybe) you need to visit your doctor and ask for referral to the local insanity building.

FACT: - The BBC will criticise the Government and any political party it finds seriously wanting.

By The Way - Which is your preferred news source?

SQL
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NoSaint  Female  Devon
9-Jan-2021 13:02 Message #4802890
Blackjack - 9-Jan-2021 11:44

The BBC is the mouthpiece for the government, its licence is always used to blackmail it, it complies, does bugger all objective reporting, but feeds us with emotionally charged tit bits psychologically moulded to create an EMOTIONAL reaction …. which is the point … emotional means you feel it, and thus it feels real, no need to question it, as your guts have already reacted.

Well if that's the way you react to the BBC news then maybe (just maybe) you need to visit your doctor and ask for referral to the local insanity building.

FACT: - The BBC will criticise the Government and any political party it finds seriously wanting.

By The Way - Which is your preferred news source?

SQL


A very good post SQL.
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tumbled  Male  Gloucestershire
9-Jan-2021 13:21 Message #4802892
Although there's a possibility that the story could be fake and just propaganda.......it's also been reported on Sky news, the Guardian, Independent, ITV, Mirror, Metro, Mail, LBC.....and a whole load of other places...

It'll be interesting to hear more about the story......or if it just dies a death...

At the very least.....it brings possible scams to the attention of the public......and hopefully makes people more aware that sad scum exist out there...

Even if this particular story turns out to be fake......you can bet your life that similar thongs are actually happening....
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Blackjack  Male  South Yorkshire
9-Jan-2021 17:58 Message #4802932
I could not believe this story, its screamed of propaganda, so looked it up, and behold pictures, to back up the facts!!!

So who the hell took the pictures? So was Granny rushing about, getting the camera or phone leapfrogging over furniture, sweeping aside the curtains, and in seconds snapped the person outside from teh top bedroom judging by the angle, as the so called criminal walked this way, then that way past the house?? Was the Wheelchair fired, Stanner stairlift on jet speed setting, Camera in hand as she sped at lightening speed to top front window , or did she ran up the stairs like a gazelle with the camera in hand? WHO TOOK THE PICTURE?

Sometimes people look and they fail to see the bleedin obvious, just accept on trust what they are told.

Why has she not been on the news as they love this sort of thing, asking questions HOW DO YOU FEEL ABOUT IT and other inane questions for mass sympathy, and the usual donations to get her money back?.

So granny just went to her purse took out £160, possibly a tip as well for Christmas, and the guy did not rob her of the rest of her money?

So it does not really make sense when one eveluates the evidence. Its just not credible.

What was she injected with, why not sent to hospital for a hepatitis check up, what was the chemical composition of the injection. Maybe it was Ok it was from Pfizer, the first shot?

People accept what they are fed without question - It also exposes something deeper in those that react to such a base instinct- they cannt think for themselves -and they would make perfect recruits for lynch mob material! But then again its the emotional effect, the outrage created in the target audience, that is the point.
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fosy  Male  Leicestershire
9-Jan-2021 22:08 Message #4802943
twice posted ?

has someone lost track of all the c&p they are doing ??
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NoSaint  Female  Devon
9-Jan-2021 22:16 Message #4802947
At least he remembered which profile he was using so full points for that.

Reminds me. Old Maglorian had a very fleeting visit earlier.
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SQL  Male  Devon
9-Jan-2021 22:27 Message #4802948
Blackjack - 9-Jan-2021 17:58

So who the hell took the pictures?

Ever heard of CCTV, you will find it in many streets these days.

Still waiting to hear where to get your unbiassed, fully independent news feeds from by the way.

SQL
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Blackjack  Male  South Yorkshire
11-Jan-2021 10:26 Message #4802991
What of the composition of the injection she had, hospital, check up, could be bleach, or the chemicals, what about infection from HIV, Hepatitis, Tetanus? Had it been someone I knew I would have been so worried.

Then there is the money, two points, the handy £160, so she does not use cards, has loads of cash in the house, and why just £160, when its obvious there had to be more. Never mind taking an object of two as if she had £160 must have been other little things that look nice enough to steal, but no, he was a polite unscrupulous decent sort of thief where just £160 was enough…. thank you Madam, will be back for your second jab, and a reduction of £60 because I like you!! Just put the £100 in an envelope please, nice meeting you.

The pictures were of a someone walking past the house, not from it, and our idiotic thief did not see the camera/s and anyway she was all tooled up with the latest gadgets, which he completely missed in the house, never saw a screen or split screen on…. while it records. Maybe it was only recording, but if she had all that sort of thing, why no panic button to alert the social services if she fell?

The point I am making is this incident leaves so many questions unanswered, serious questions. The point is the emotional response, the outrage for the reader, how could this happen………and so on. It shapes how you think, and what you think about…All I can say if it really happened then, why was she not taken to a hospital.

The story is all about creating rage, leaving the audience on a knife edge, fuming at the outrage, which was my point. Obviously who wants to believe that we are being hoodwinked, propagandized….
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VingtEtUn  Male  central London
11-Jan-2021 10:32 Message #4802992
Just another media source making up the news. That's what the media has always done.

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tumbled  Male  Gloucestershire
11-Jan-2021 10:59 Message #4802997
It certainly appears less and less genuine as each day goes by.......

Doing a search online......All the media outlets I mentioned in a previous post ( eg. Sky news, the Guardian, Independent, ITV, Mirror, Metro, Mail, LBC ) are all now a few days old.......No updates etc....

I haven't looked into it any deeper.....but it sees a bit dodgy....

The raising awareness of scams is a good thing though.....Makes people more alert.....Things like this will be actually happening somewhere....
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SQL  Male  Devon
11-Jan-2021 11:22 Message #4803004
Blackjack Sex icon 11-Jan-2021 10:26

The story is all about creating rage, leaving the audience on a knife edge, fuming at the outrage, which was my point. Obviously who wants to believe that we are being hoodwinked, propagandized….

No - I think it's just you like to create your own idea of the world and use a very wild & vivid imagination to put forward a lot of 'facts' that are actually very improbable suppositions. - You're not related to a certain D.Trump are you?

SQL
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Blackjack  Male  South Yorkshire
11-Jan-2021 21:30 Message #4803105
SQL so nice of you to care so much. Maybe you might like this a tried and tested method used today by the way....remember weapond of mass destrution /delusion/ purposefully distorted lies ???

The use of a BIG lie is a propaganda technique used for political purpose so "colossal" that no one would believe that someone "could have the impudence to distort the truth so infamously".

All this was inspired by the principle—which is quite true within itself—that in the big lie there is always a certain force of credibility; because the broad masses of a nation are always more easily corrupted in the deeper strata of their emotional nature than consciously or voluntarily; and thus in the primitive simplicity of their minds they more readily fall victims to the big lie than the small lie, since they themselves often tell small lies in little matters but would be ashamed to resort to large-scale falsehoods.

It would never come into their heads to fabricate colossal untruths, and they would not believe that others could have the impudence to distort the truth so infamously. Even though the facts which prove this to be so may be brought clearly to their minds, they will still doubt and waver and will continue to think that there may be some other explanation. For the grossly impudent lie always leaves traces behind it, even after it has been nailed down, a fact which is known to all expert liars in this world and to all who conspire together in the art of lying.



If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it. The lie can be maintained only for such time as the State can shield the people from the political, economic and/or military consequences of the lie. It thus becomes vitally important for the State to use all of its powers to repress dissent, for the truth is the mortal enemy of the lie, and thus by extension, the truth is the greatest enemy of the State.

The essential English leadership secret does not depend on particular intelligence. Rather, it depends on a remarkably stupid thick-headedness. The English follow the principle that when one lies, one should lie big, and stick to it. They keep up their lies, even at the risk of looking ridiculous.

His primary rules were: never allow the public to cool off; never admit a fault or wrong; never concede that there may be some good in your enemy; never leave room for alternatives; never accept blame; concentrate on one enemy at a time and blame him for everything that goes wrong; people will believe a big lie sooner than a little one; and if you repeat it frequently enough people will sooner or later believe it. (CIA)[8]

The above quote appears in the report, A Psychological Analysis of Adolph Hitler: His Life and Legend, by Walter C. Langer

The first 3 paragraphs was written by some deluded artist —?Adolf Hitler, Mein Kampf, vol. I, ch. X
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Blackjack  Male  South Yorkshire
11-Jan-2021 23:38 Message #4803133
SQL so nice of you to care so much. Maybe you might like this a tried and tested method used today by the way....remember weapond of mass destrution /delusion/ purposefully distorted lies ???

The use of a BIG lie is a propaganda technique used for political purpose so "colossal" that no one would believe that someone "could have the impudence to distort the truth so infamously".

All this was inspired by the principle—which is quite true within itself—that in the big lie there is always a certain force of credibility; because the broad masses of a nation are always more easily corrupted in the deeper strata of their emotional nature than consciously or voluntarily; and thus in the primitive simplicity of their minds they more readily fall victims to the big lie than the small lie, since they themselves often tell small lies in little matters but would be ashamed to resort to large-scale falsehoods.

It would never come into their heads to fabricate colossal untruths, and they would not believe that others could have the impudence to distort the truth so infamously. Even though the facts which prove this to be so may be brought clearly to their minds, they will still doubt and waver and will continue to think that there may be some other explanation. For the grossly impudent lie always leaves traces behind it, even after it has been nailed down, a fact which is known to all expert liars in this world and to all who conspire together in the art of lying.



If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it. The lie can be maintained only for such time as the State can shield the people from the political, economic and/or military consequences of the lie. It thus becomes vitally important for the State to use all of its powers to repress dissent, for the truth is the mortal enemy of the lie, and thus by extension, the truth is the greatest enemy of the State.

The essential English leadership secret does not depend on particular intelligence. Rather, it depends on a remarkably stupid thick-headedness. The English follow the principle that when one lies, one should lie big, and stick to it. They keep up their lies, even at the risk of looking ridiculous.

His primary rules were: never allow the public to cool off; never admit a fault or wrong; never concede that there may be some good in your enemy; never leave room for alternatives; never accept blame; concentrate on one enemy at a time and blame him for everything that goes wrong; people will believe a big lie sooner than a little one; and if you repeat it frequently enough people will sooner or later believe it. (CIA)[8]

The above quote appears in the report, A Psychological Analysis of Adolph Hitler: His Life and Legend, by Walter C. Langer

The first 3 paragraphs was written by some deluded artist —?Adolf Hitler, Mein Kampf, vol. I, ch. X
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Mumsie  Female  Warwickshire
12-Jan-2021 15:54 Message #4803175
Not run out of ink yet , Blackjack ?
Is there a competition for the longest boring replies here .

Take some , news with a pinch of salt, its much less stressful and easier the typing fingers too

Relax and cool off
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Orson  Male  Tayside
15-Jan-2021 13:49 Message #4803587
One reminds other posters here of the lasting "damage" that can be done whilst making an observation. Tsk, tsk.
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OcelotTangle  Male  Cornwall
16-Jan-2021 14:22 Message #4803688
"I could not believe this story, its screamed of propaganda, so looked it up, and behold pictures, to back up the facts!!!"

and

"The more one looks into this story the more implausible it seems - so many holes in this story, I cannot believe people swallow this without one single question."

Well here's an update from The Evening Standard.

A man accused of tricking a 92-year-old woman into paying for a fake coronavirus vaccine has appeared in court. David Chambers, 33, allegedly knocked on the pensioner’s door on December 30 offering her an injection if she paid him. It is said he pressed something onto the woman’s wrist to pretend it was a vaccination and charged her a £160 fee, the Evening Standard reported.

Read more: https://metro.co.uk/2021/01/15/man-charged-after-giving-92-year-old-fake-covid-jab-and-charged-160-13910925/?ito=cbshare

Although I suppose The Evening Standard, Sky News and all the other media outlets reporting the arrest could all be conspiring to confuse and deceive us, couldn't they?
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As to one contributor's comments, I ponder; Why write such provocative and alarmist fiction in the first place?


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