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Half Wit

Moves again

NotHermit  Male  Derbyshire 15-Aug-2019 21:15 Message #4748816
With an election looming, half wits are jumping ship.
Today an MP joined the Liberals, from Change UK, following a recent move from Labour to Change UK (I think).
Any predictions on who else will move and where?

What about my fave half wit, Anna Soubry?
Completely ruled out joining the Libs recently, but times are changing.
wonderoushen  Female  Gwynedd 16-Aug-2019 11:06 Message #4748866
Sarah Wollaston is anything but a half wit, I suggest you try listening to what she has to say on a number of subjects rather than just Brexit
MrQuiet  Male  Northamptonshire 16-Aug-2019 12:20 Message #4748875
To many people brexit seems to be the only subject worth talking about and politicians are being judged solely on the brexit stance.
bella111  Female  Devon 16-Aug-2019 12:32 Message #4748879
Well coming from Woolaston's area she is exceptionally unpopular here in Devon, I doubt very much she will get back in under any guise, and it is not just the Brexit issue. She has voted on a lot of anti NHS things and being a GP herself you would have thought had more understanding.
NotHermit  Male  Derbyshire 16-Aug-2019 18:45 Message #4748888
Wondie, there are many very intelligent half wits out there.
Woolaston is a half wit that thinks she can change party to suit her own career.
JustLyn  Female  Cheshire 16-Aug-2019 21:47 Message #4748895
The last thing Wollaston is doing is a career move.
I respect her for her courage and taking a chance in what she believes in.
NotHermit  Male  Derbyshire 16-Aug-2019 23:37 Message #4748904
Is she friends with Jeremy?
NotHermit  Male  Derbyshire 16-Aug-2019 23:44 Message #4748905
Sarah Woolaston previously campaigned for by elections, when an MP changes party (changed mind?)
Supported Brexit, now supports remain.(changed mind?)

Won her seat as a Conservative.
Moved to Change UK.
Moved to independent.
Moved to Lib Dems.
What next?
Neros1954  Male  Devon 17-Aug-2019 08:23 Message #4748917
When an MP changes party is it because the follow policies they agree with or leave behind policies they disagree with, rather than stick it out with a party to improve their career chances?
bella111  Female  Devon 17-Aug-2019 09:12 Message #4748918
Our dear Sarah has:
Always voted for reducing Housing Benefits
Consistently voted against raising Welfare Benefits
Consistently voted against Higher Benefits for those unable to work
Consistently voted for a reduction in Welfare benefits

Always voted against spending more to create jobs for 16 to 19 year olds
Voted for raising Undergraduates fees
Consistently voted for Tuition fees
Always voted against restricting the Private Sector in NHS

Well if that is following the policies of your heart, then Just Lyn and Michael you surprise me, you are more right wing than I am....
JustLyn  Female  Cheshire 17-Aug-2019 20:38 Message #4748971
Who said I agreed with her policies?

I think she is one of the best of a misguided bunch. There is always hope for realisation.

Some people can have empathy, compassion, but not always agree the right way to deal with changing society.

I like something that Corbyn said, that it is more important to discuss with people you disagree with than those you agree with.

It's just sad that some people feel they have to degrade and put down others to achieve an point whosever side you are on.
HotOrWot  Male  Lancashire 17-Aug-2019 20:44 Message #4748973
Well if that is following the policies of your heart, then Just Lyn and Michael you surprise me, you are more right wing than I am....

It’s true that a lot of policies hiding behind a socialist facade are actually very right wing.
NotHermit  Male  Derbyshire 18-Aug-2019 11:38 Message #4749006
Just Lynn said about Sarah Woolaston.

I respect her for her courage and taking a chance in what she believes in.

Sarah is a proper Tory, the sort of person JL has been whining about constantly.
Just Lynn, do you actually respect a Tory?
A Tory that is anti benefits?
Judance  Female  Berkshire 18-Aug-2019 11:42 Message #4749009
"I like something that Corbyn said, that it is more important to discuss with people you disagree with than those you agree with."

Is this the same Corbyn who initially refused to talk to Theresa May over Brexit …. ?

NotHermit  Male  Derbyshire 18-Aug-2019 12:23 Message #4749012
And Donald Trump, then he changed his mind, and Donald would not meet him.
He did not attend the banquet during Trump's state visit, where he would have been able to speak to Mr trump.

Just imagine, I did not attend the function, but would be willing to meet you now.

Ok Jeremy, I will change my very busy schedule straight away.
Can you bring Diane Abbot and that boring old bloke.
JustLyn  Female  Cheshire 18-Aug-2019 18:30 Message #4749038
Judance, he did meet with Theresa May over Brexit, as did many others and as predicted they got nowhere because she was incapable of negotiating anything. As I said, even her own got sick of her inability to do much else than go on like a broken record.
JustLyn  Female  Cheshire 18-Aug-2019 18:36 Message #4749040

I respect a lot of people who are polite and reconsider their opinion based on evidence.

Many thought Wollaston, Allen and Soubry would just continue to toe the party line and vote accordingly. They left and took the risk to lose their seats which I respect them for.

Allen, in spite of voting the same, had the guts to admit she had no idea all the suffering and poverty was caused through Universal Credit and the Tories getting it wrong.

We also don't have to agree 100% on very single issue.

I'm not tribal, I just vote for policies where the party holds the majority of policies for doing the right thing in my opinion.

Good job most of you are near retirement or already retired because you might like Iain Duncan Smith being back on form and pushing for pension to be when age 75.
persona_non_grata  Male  North London 18-Aug-2019 18:40 Message #4749044
JustLyn. It’s a pity we can’t choose a parliament of MPs from across all parties to have one super party that could run the economy and also care about those who are disadvantaged. There would be no place for Johnson or Corbyn but there are hundreds of brilliant and caring politicians who are not grabbing the headlines.
JustLyn  Female  Cheshire 18-Aug-2019 21:20 Message #4749065

Maybe that is what we will be getting. More and more party leaders seems to be more on cooperation, though Corbyn is well aware of the disadvantaged. Even before he even thought he would get any front seat power, he was interested in sorting out homeless, not ignoring them.

I don't think age is a barrier to maturing, and I suspect Corbyn has been catapulted on his learning curve since he became leader. I think he is typical of being an alternative thinker and because people don't get it, they don't trust him.

People can be very bad at trusting people who do not run with the herd.
MrQuiet  Male  Northamptonshire 18-Aug-2019 21:54 Message #4749073
If we are talking about a group of the best politicians then it is obvious that Corbyn would not be in the running JustLyn no matter how much you adore him and defend him. Not in anyone’s wildest imagination could he ever be placed with the best.
fosy  Male  Leicestershire 18-Aug-2019 22:24 Message #4749078
"They left and took the risk to lose their seats which I respect them for. "

soubry was going to loose her seat, her constituency [broxtowe- pro brexit] had had enough of her, so she jumped ship.

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