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NotHermit  Male  Derbyshire 4-Apr-2019 22:11 Message #4738034
You are unable to see the complex logic.
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Cautious1954  Female  Berkshire 4-Apr-2019 22:16 Message #4738035
Yes JustLyn paint a picture of the real terrorist supporter Corbyn being innocent of the atrocious behaviour that is well documented and hope that criticisms of the British will stop people seeing the truth.
Corbyn is a traitor and quite rightly hated by many.
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Good2BWith  Male  West Yorkshire 4-Apr-2019 22:57 Message #4738036
Cautious1954 4-Apr-2019 22:16
Yes JustLyn paint a picture of the real terrorist supporter Corbyn being innocent of the atrocious behaviour that is well documented

So well documented that you can't even supply ONE link to a verifiable source?

and hope that criticisms of the British will stop people seeing the truth.
What criticizm?
Which British, we're not all clones, well most of us aren't?
Which "truth" is being kept hidden from us?
If you know what the rest of us don't know why haven't you sold your story to the Daily Mail?


Corbyn is a traitor
Would you care to explain:
# The verifiable evidence on which you base this claim?
# If he is that which you claim he is, why hasn't he been arrested, charged, tried and a verdict returned?
# If he'd been found guilty he'd not have been eligible to run as an MP since being a traitor is the only remaining Capital offence in England?


and quite rightly hated by many.
How many - as a proportion of the 65 million living in UK?

What is going to happen to Mrs May and her team for consorting and conspiring with an alleged (By you and a few of your chums) traitor?
Is it part of your "Cunning Plan" to drive her from office and install Mr J R-M? (+/- his Nanny?)
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tsunamiwarrior  Male  Hertfordshire 4-Apr-2019 23:07 Message #4738037
An idiotic storm in a teacup. Absolutely meaningless and pointless. If the target face had been anyone other than a loony left politician nothing would have been said.
Does anyone not think that most high profile politicians and many undesirables in civvy street have not found their picture being shot at? People really need to grow up and concentrate on important issues.
Of course there is the civilian version with a picture on the dartboard.


I agree with that and also with posts that Corbyn is a terrorist sympathiser and traitor to the country.
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Good2BWith  Male  West Yorkshire 4-Apr-2019 23:18 Message #4738039
tsunamiwarrior 4-Apr-2019 23:07

See my message as above = 4-Apr-2019 22:57 Message #4738036
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Good2BWith  Male  West Yorkshire 4-Apr-2019 23:22 Message #4738040
Also 4-Apr-2019 15:16 new Message #4738014
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Good2BWith  Male  West Yorkshire 4-Apr-2019 23:26 Message #4738041
Hierophant Sex icon 4-Apr-2019 21:56
Good2BWith I have no idea what you are going on about, your post makes no sense as a response to mine...

That comes as a great shock and surprize.
Tho' it sort of proves that you ex-Grammar school kids don't know everything
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Hierophant  Male  East Anglia 5-Apr-2019 07:22 Message #4738044
That comes as a great shock and surprize.
Tho' it sort of proves that you ex-Grammar school kids don't know everything


Ahh I know you lefties resent anybody and everybody who has done/is doing better than you, but don't beat yourself up, there must be something you are good at?...
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Good2BWith  Male  West Yorkshire 5-Apr-2019 14:20 Message #4738077
... and Gulliver's Travels was written as a book for children.
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JustLyn  Female  Cheshire 5-Apr-2019 16:11 Message #4738089
"Hierophant Sex icon 4-Apr-2019 21:56 "

Can't stop grinning, really ticked my fancy.

(Tired and been at work since 06:30)

sorry, off piste.
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JustLyn  Female  Cheshire 5-Apr-2019 16:23 Message #4738090
Cautious1954

"Yes JustLyn paint a picture of the real terrorist supporter Corbyn being innocent of the atrocious behaviour that is well documented and hope that criticisms of the British will stop people seeing the truth.
Corbyn is a traitor and quite rightly hated by many. "

I'm not painting a picture, Corbyn is innocent.
It depends of what level of research you read to and the rationale for why he did things.

If you look at what the Mail writes, then they choose to paint the picture of guilt because it suits them to print half truths, but when of if you bother to read the rationale of why they skew the truth, Corbyn's decisions and actions are mostly pretty well thought out and founded.

OK, I acknowledge he might have made some poor judgments like using the word "friends" when trying to negotiate peace, a manipulative action, BUT haven't we all said something stupid at some time?

Think about it. Being an anti-war, anti nuclear, anti Trident...AND anti selling weapons to Saudi, is completely at odds with supporting terrorists. If anything, May IS supporting Saudi terrorists blowing up little kids, to support our economy.

YouGov, whether you believe the conservative poll site or not, did show that Corbyn supporters happen to come from a higher education background, a larger percentage than previously I mean so what people call "loony left" might be right...erm no left...oh well!

I'm quite happy to be loony, at least I know it and proud of it.
My mental health teacher, in 1970 once said we are all just in different levels of madness and those that think they are sane you have to worry about most.
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RAACH84  Female  Buckinghamshire 5-Apr-2019 17:53 Message #4738094
I don’t look at what the Mail writes and cannot in any way attribute my views to any one particular source.
Even the quickest google will bring up dozens of separately sourced items showing Corbyn’s misdemeanours from when he was a student to the present day. He has always sided with the terrorist and attended their rallies and funerals while criticising and putting down the British.
I don’t thonk he cares which terrorist group he applauds as long as they are anti-British.
If you are right and Corbyn supporters come from higher education then that is a sad reflection on our society and rather confirms the vast chasm between having brains and using them.
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JustLyn  Female  Cheshire 5-Apr-2019 18:04 Message #4738095
Raach84

That's my point.

"The quickest google will bring up dozens ..."
That's the first level.

You'd have to read further at the rationale, not the first assumption the google products are giving you facts.
Funny, because that's basically what you learn in higher education which was an interesting comment in itself. Maybe they have bothered to research the facts rather than believe the rhetoric?
Not just a sad reflection, but why higher education might contribute to the surge in supporting Corbyn.

Having said that, I don't go with brains always accessing higher education, and I don't go with brains always using the brains compassionately which accounts for why quite a disproportionate number of Etonians are in May's cabinet.
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tumbled  Male  Gloucestershire 5-Apr-2019 19:03 Message #4738097
I don't know whether all the things Corbyn has said, or not said, or all his actions, have been reported accurately or not.

There are many reports from various sources, and if they were highly inaccurate, then i'm sure he would have taken the matter further. Probably suing those involved in the reporting. That is what often happens anyway.

Also, with politics involved, things are twisted and turned to suit an agenda.

There is an interview with Sophy Ridge, who does a lot of labour interviews. It is from 2017, and Corbyn was repeatedly asked whether he condemns the IRA. Like a typical politician, he kept swerving his answer. People can read what suits their agenda into that, but I think he was asked 5 times. A simple 'Yes' would have at least avoided any other interpretations of his answer, but that was not to be.

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NotHermit  Male  Derbyshire 5-Apr-2019 19:25 Message #4738099
Everytime I see Corbyn, he is doing something anti-British.
For instance, Shamima Begum.

He says he would let her back into the UK (Human Rights).
Apparently the government have stopped a few terrorists coming back into the country.

What would Jeremy do if he was PM?
He would presumably let them all back in.
How much better would the Labour party be without Jeremy?
And without Diane Abbott.
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Good2BWith  Male  West Yorkshire 5-Apr-2019 20:56 Message #4738101
RAACH84 5-Apr-2019 17:53
I don’t look at what the Mail writes and cannot in any way attribute my views to any one particular source.
Even the quickest google will bring up dozens of separately sourced items showing Corbyn’s misdemeanours from when he was a student to the present day. He has always sided with the terrorist and attended their rallies and funerals while criticising and putting down the British.

1) So numerous are these adverse comments that you can't be bothered to post the URL of even ONE of them.

2) As Molesworth, N. said "Any Fule Kno That" what you get out of the InterWeb is what you put into your Search Engine.
If I put Good things about Corbyn into Google, I'll get 1 000s of positive items

3) The essence of using the unregulated mass that is the InterWeb is to be highly discriminating in the sources you select. If you're not you'll end up as a follower of David Icke or worse, believing what you seem to do about Mr Corbyn.

Remember: GIGO
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Good2BWith  Male  West Yorkshire 5-Apr-2019 21:08 Message #4738103
NotHermit 5-Apr-2019 19:25
Everytime I see Corbyn, he is doing something anti-British.
For instance, Shamima Begum.


Au contraire, what Mr Corbyn has done is intensely PRO-British.
What Mr Javed has done has given rise to a lynch mob who are ready to run a proverbial Coach & Horses thru' national and international standards of Justice when it comes to making people Stateless.

I would never even think of accusing you of being anti-British, but be careful of what rubs off from those who wish to ride roughshod over our heritage of "Fair Play"

Remember Pastor Martin Niemöller's words:
First they came for ...
Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me.
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Good2BWith  Male  West Yorkshire 5-Apr-2019 21:23 Message #4738104
tumbleweed 5-Apr-2019 19:03
Your quote is much truncated from the actuality.
And the question posed by the hard Right aggressive 'host' was akin to the classic Have you stopped beating your wife?

Mr Corbyn said "all bombing is wrong" as he faced repeated questions on the Sophy Ridge on Sunday programme over whether he condemned the IRA alone for its role in the Troubles.

He said: "I condemn all the bombing by both the loyalists and the IRA."

Mr Corbyn said: "In the 1980s Britain was looking for a military solution in Ireland. It clearly was never going to work. Ask anyone in the British Army at that time.

Watch the video Clip, and read the SKY TV transcript here:
https://news.sky.com/story/jeremy-corbyn-labour-wants-fair-immigration-based-on-the-needs-of-our-society-10886500
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RAACH84  Female  Buckinghamshire 5-Apr-2019 21:33 Message #4738105
JustLynn

That was my point.

“The quickest google will bring up dozens ..."

That was to help direct you as you appeared to be unaware of the numerous reports from sources all over the world and photographic evidence of many of the rallies and funerals of terrorists he has attended.

He supports almost anything anti-British.
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tumbled  Male  Gloucestershire 5-Apr-2019 21:55 Message #4738107
g2b, as i said, everyone has their own agenda and interpretation of things.

One example of an answer being avoided is the famous Paxman/Howard one. Look at the stick he got for that.

Other Corbyn things though, there is one about his arrest in 1986 from the Times. If the Times have reported it wrong, then Corbyn would have surely sued. It says 'Jeremy Corbyn was arrested in 1986 taking part in a protest by IRA sympathisers to “show solidarity” with accused terrorists including the Brighton bomber, a Sunday Times investigation reveals. Corbyn joined a picket outside the Old Bailey to oppose the “show trial” of a group including Patrick Magee, who was subsequently convicted of murdering five people at the 1984 Tory party conference.'

Another one attending the memorial for the Munich Olympic terrorists. From the guardian. 'Jeremy Corbyn has said he was present but not involved at a wreath-laying for individuals behind the group that carried out the Munich Olympic massacre, a partial admission that has led to a row with Israel’s prime minister.

The Labour leader had been asked if Palestinian leaders linked to the Black September terror group were also honoured at a memorial event he attended in Tunisia in 2014, at which victims of the 1985 Israeli airstrike in Tunis were remembered.

Corbyn said “a wreath was indeed laid” for “some of those who were killed in Paris in 1992” and added in response to a question: “I was present at that wreath-laying, I don’t think I was actually involved in it.”

He added: “I was there because I wanted to see a fitting memorial to everyone who has died in every terrorist incident everywhere because we have to end it. You cannot pursue peace by a cycle of violence; the only way you can pursue peace [is] by a cycle of dialogue.”
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Good2BWith  Male  West Yorkshire 5-Apr-2019 23:32 Message #4738114
RAACH84 S5-Apr-2019 21:33

1,0 “The quickest google will bring up dozens ..." (sic)
1,1 What did you load into your search engine?

2.0 He (Mr Corbyn) supports almost anything anti-British.
2.1 There are a myriad of ways that one can come to this conclusion from Web-based feedback. if one is not scrupulous in defining the terms used in your search engine.
2,1 Confirmation Biase is one of the most insidious

3.0 As the days of Empire were forced to draw to a close, and as the Winds of Change blew faster and faster, many in UK claimed to be pro-British as they ordered more and more atrocities to be perpetrated against the so-called terrorists who were merely asking for their country back, please,
# Churchill over India
# The Tories backing the Fascist state of Rhodesia/Zimbabwe under Mr Smith.
# Margaret Thatcher classing Nelson Mandela as a terrorist.
# Mrs Thatcher 'martyring' Bobby Sands and nine other hunger strikers

# The Mau Mau Uprising (1952–1960) -
# Malayan Emergency
In both these cases, Churchill invoked Direct Action = Military intervention, concentration camps, villagization, torture, castration, amputations

4.0 That's pro-British behaviour which you recommend, is it?
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Gilpin  Female  Middlesex 5-Apr-2019 23:33 Message #4738115
I reckon Corbyn belongs to the 'ban the bomb' era. And is still stuck there. The Cold War. Vietnam, and the average age of troopers being 19. Hiroshima and Nagasaki, and the Americans detonating 2 nuclear atom bombs that killed I've no idea how many. Peace and love was the mantra of the day, it was a huge thing. He seems like he has stayed in that mind frame, totally different from todays approach to who is killing whom.
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Good2BWith  Male  West Yorkshire 6-Apr-2019 06:51 Message #4738120
Gilpin 5-Apr-2019 23:33
I reckon Corbyn belongs to the 'ban the bomb' era. And is still stuck there. Peace and love was the mantra of the day

And there are countless millions who are stuck with a belief in peace and love which is 2 000 years old.
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NotHermit  Male  Derbyshire 6-Apr-2019 08:31 Message #4738121
May be true G2B, but Corbyn is daft enough to disarm his own country.
If it was not for defence, Corbyn and indeed the rest of us would not even be here.
That's why most people are proud of our armed forces.
Including ones that shoot at Corbyn targets.
Its no surprise to me that Corbyn is not happy.
I have only heard Corbyn criticize our military at every opportunity.
Another clue to the intention to disarm, if the opportunity arose.
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HotOrWot  Male  Lancashire 6-Apr-2019 09:26 Message #4738123
Corbyn is against peace in Ireland. During the 1980s and 1990s he supported the IRA and opposed the Northern Ireland peace process.

He supported terror by attending and speaking at annual pro-IRA commemorations for terrorists between 1986 and 1992. The programme for one such event reads: ‘In this, the conclusive phase in the war to rid Ireland of the scourge of British imperialism…force of arms is the only method capable of bringing this about’.
By aligning with terrorists. Corbyn was general secretary of the editorial board of the hard-left journal Labour Briefing which supported IRA violence and explicitly backed the Brighton Hotel Bombing, which killed 5 people and maimed 31 others. In its December 1984 leader, the editorial board ‘disassociated itself’ from an article criticising the Brighton bombing, saying the criticism was a ‘serious political misjudgement’. The board said it ‘reaffirmed its support for, and solidarity with, the Irish republican movement’, and added that ‘the British only sit up and take notice when they are bombed into it’. Alongside its editorial, the board reprinted a speech by Gerry Adams describing the bombing as a ‘blow for democracy.


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