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The Rule of six

will you rat on your neighbours?

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wonderoushen  Female  Gwynedd
15-Sep-2020 10:41 Message #4792351
We're all being asked to anonymously inform authorities of any neighbours we see breaking the rule of six, would you do it? If there was a massive noisy party that was going on late I might, but I suspect many people are in a similar situation to me. We're supposed to be having family down over xmas, that will make us 7, my son and DiL and Manthings son and DiL have made a social bubble, should we not see one family member? Which should we choose? We've not seen our kids since last xmas and I'm sure many others are in the same position, not just for personal reasons, but for common sense and normal human feeling I wouldn't inform on neighbours having one or two extra people round, especially as rules are different in Wales to England.

I'm sure there are plenty of people who will be curtain twitching and operating a cut price kremlin from thier bedroom windows and others who will apply some common sense others still who will ignore it all and do as they please.
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The_38th_Parallel  Male  Essex
15-Sep-2020 11:11 Message #4792356
We're all being asked to anonymously inform authorities of any neighbours we see breaking the rule of six.........,

Yes but as per the supposedly "mandatory" wearing of masks (which so many still refuse to do), it's pretty much unenforceable.
I can't really see any of the police services in England tasking officers (and I heard a county Chief Constable on the radio yesterday admitting to such) to attend a report of someone breaking the rule of 6 when they might have a robbery, RTC, or other serious ongoing situation to attend to.

The local police in my Borough can't even keep up with people committing motoring offences and they are happening out in the open for all to see (eg. not wearing seat belts, drivers on mobiles, small children in the front and back seats clearly without bolster seats, or not restrained at all, vehicles with front and rear lights not working (which is going to get even worse given the 6 month mot extension some will be taking advantage of), illegal number plates) and now we have a plague of illegal to use e-scooters causing potential mayhem. It's feels more like the lawless Wild West.

But when it comes to people knowing exactly who's going to to be in someone's house. I'd say that's the downside of sharing your life too much with neighbours. I have no idea and no desire to even know the names of some of the residents who live around me, let alone what they do and who might be visiting them.
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Hierophant  Male  East Anglia
15-Sep-2020 11:39 Message #4792357
Personally, I wouldn't bother, there have been people breaking lockdown rules in plain sight where I live.
Two young families in particular were mixing, cuddling each other's babies and playing together even at the height of lockdown in April.

I can't help thinking there is an attempt to rile people out of their slumber with this sort of stuff, few people seem to have reacted positively to the new rules and many seem genuinely pissed off.
There's nothing better than a bit of anger to make people forget what they were scared of in the first place and react against the govt.
It's a risky game to play but maybe the govt are deliberately pushing people just that little bit too far.....
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Neros1954  Male  Devon
15-Sep-2020 16:28 Message #4792372
I have seen plenty of people ignoring lockdown rules although I have no idea why and I doubt they know either.
I have seen plenty of people on the motorway today driving well in excess of 80 mph and being reckless at times.
All I can do is stick to the rules myself and hope that by doing so I keep others a little safer.
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HonestBob  Male  the Central region
15-Sep-2020 16:32 Message #4792373
"Personally, I wouldn't bother, there have been people breaking lockdown rules in plain sight where I live."

Exactly! garden parties every night where I lived, BBQ's, swimming pool ect... and during the day it was DIY, every day, all day.

No, I certainly would not grass my neighbours in for having their family round!

I met an elderly woman today, despite her living at the end of my street I haven't seen her for months! Since before lockdown. She has a Boxer dog, she used to be out walking it twice a day, every day, in any weather that came. She must be late 70s-early 80s. She asked how come she hadn't seen me for so long, I told her about my dog having a bad heart condition and now he can't, or shouldn't be walked far. She then says "I used to be able to walk her for miles and miles, but after been stuck in the house for so long, I can't barely go round the block!"

In my humblest of humble opinion.... I think her being locked up for so long, has done more damage than any virus would have done her. Wasn't the same woman I used to meet before March thats for sure!
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tumbled  Male  Gloucestershire
15-Sep-2020 16:40 Message #4792376
As has been pointed out....the Police aren't able to cope with what they've got on their plate already....but i think some of the advice is to stop you turning vigilante....taking the law in your own hands....

They always say report things to the Police.....Whether anything is done about it though is another matter...

If someone pissed me off....I may report them....but the tendency is often to avoid them...not get involved etc....and then just moan to everyone about it.....
Female
eurostar  Female  Merseyside
15-Sep-2020 16:46 Message #4792378
No I will not grass my neighbours up, they keep an eye on my house when I, m in work, take parcels in for me, provide the odd chat over the fence so hell no
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persona_non_grata  Male  North London
15-Sep-2020 17:33 Message #4792385
It's not in my nature to grass anyone up although over the years I have reported a neighbour for racists attack on their neighbour and also a scummy family for mistreating their young children. I wouldn't report anyone for a family gathering of more than six people but might do so if it was dozens at a reckless boozy party .. although I would have a word first.

All about common sense really.
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brisinger-the-beekeeper  Male  Lancashire
15-Sep-2020 18:00 Message #4792391
Even though I've got neighbours from hell I don't think I could be bothered unless it is rowdy and invading my space. As for Xmas the government website infers albeit not explicitly to be an exclusion...
The rule also does not apply to gatherings for work or education purposes, and to other gatherings including weddings, funerals, and team sports organised in a COVID-19 secure way.
Female
wonderoushen  Female  Gwynedd
15-Sep-2020 18:45 Message #4792395
I agree with your last paragraph Bob, its use it or lose it at any age, but the older you are the more you need to keep active to stay active.

I agree about who will enforce this new law, unless its am illegal rave or something of that ilk, I can't see the police having the time, energy or resourses. I bet they will have quite a few calls, probably many malicious, of people having a couple of extra visitors, NW police had to take out a full page ad thingy in the local paper at the start of lockdown to ask people to stop phoning to say they'd seen someone walking a dog.
Female
Sea  Female  Essex
15-Sep-2020 22:20 Message #4792407
Unless a big rowdy party: I would not bother if it was just family members. But some people have nothing better to do than curtain twitch and tell tales. My eldest has a second home in Norfolk and half term was going to have one of my other daughters and family up there but now won't, as that would make eight. The main reason being that my eldest went up there when schools closed prior to lockdown. They were up there for over three weeks but then children were missing things back home, favourite toys etc. Son-in-law also thought he ought to look in on parents and take some shopping, as self isolating etc. They were back home for about a week then drove back up to Norfolk, arriving early evening. Early the very next morning the police were knocking at the door as a neighbour had reported them, saying they had to go home. If they had not popped back for a week they would have been fine. A nosey neighbour had nothing better to do. They had not been in any shops, only home deliveries. Son-in-law working from home and children doing school work in the day and about an hours walk early evening, when nobody around. So, do not want to risk police knocking yet again. But everything seems a bit mad, as you can have thirty children in a class at school but when they come out of school, only six including parents can meet up.
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Colonel_Blink  Male  Buckinghamshire
16-Sep-2020 07:35 Message #4792413
I think the rule of 6 is a good one. It is also one that even those confused people we hear about should be capable of understanding and following but I'm sure many will still ignore. It might depend on the circumstances but I don't think I will be reporting anyone.
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HotOrWot  Male  Lancashire
16-Sep-2020 11:31 Message #4792434
I think the rule of 6 is a good one. It is also one that even those confused people we hear about should be capable of understanding and following but I'm sure many will still ignore. It might depend on the circumstances but I don't think I will be reporting anyone.

Exactly.
Male
brisinger-the-beekeeper  Male  Lancashire
16-Sep-2020 12:18 Message #4792439
When I first saw this I thought it was a follow up to Terry Goodkind's 'Law of nines' ;-)

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Maglorian  Male  North Yorkshire
18-Sep-2020 23:39 Message #4792684
The rule of six, just doesn't add up.

If I understand the rule of six correctly. It is illegal for seven children to feed ducks, but legal for 30 men to shoot ducks.
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Hierophant  Male  East Anglia
19-Sep-2020 07:12 Message #4792685
You know it's not good to feed bread to ducks anyway, so the Tory govt are saving humans and ducks!
I bet Corbyn wouldn't have done that....
Female
JustLyn  Female  Cheshire
19-Sep-2020 08:40 Message #4792687
Corbyn has been vegetarian for 20 years, long before he could be accused of wangling his beliefs to dupe the public.

It's such a pity we got Brexit instead of the radical animal protection laws that would have come to the fore had Corbyn won, but the public would rather believe £350 million a day on the NHS and that Corbyn wore a Russian communist hat and used a train seat on a packed train.

https://theecologist.org/2018/feb/14/vegetarian-labour-leader-jeremy-corbyn-sets-out-radical-animal-welfare-agenda

We are reaping the fool we sowed.
Female
NoSaint  Female  Devon
19-Sep-2020 08:55 Message #4792689
.Maglorian, AvitoDauphine, Wandering4Fun, Witheflow, withgoodintent, to use just a few of your names, you cannot escape your neo liberal cabal by pretending to have socialist ideals and pretending to care about others and pretending to want to help the poor. You really nasty piece of work.
You mock council house tenants? You laugh at littered communities? You make racist comments? You make snide homophobic remarks? You hate seeing the poor being helped and attack every thread where caring people try to help others. The use of fake images, verbal insults to “non-agreers”, multi profiles including a female one with access to the “ladies” room.
The only contribution you have made to the forum is reviving all the excellent votes which float around whenever one of the abhorrent trolls makes an unwelcome appearance.


While everyone discusses serious issues the duplicitous fake profile Maglorian which is only one of the several profiles he/she uses to sneak around the site is talking about feeding ducks. What a plank! On the bright side the appearance of Maglorian brought out Corbyn's fan to talk about vegetarians.
Female
NoSaint  Female  Devon
19-Sep-2020 08:55 Message #4792690
.Maglorian, AvitoDauphine, Wandering4Fun, Witheflow, withgoodintent, to use just a few of your names, you cannot escape your neo liberal cabal by pretending to have socialist ideals and pretending to care about others and pretending to want to help the poor. You really nasty piece of work.
You mock council house tenants? You laugh at littered communities? You make racist comments? You make snide homophobic remarks? You hate seeing the poor being helped and attack every thread where caring people try to help others. The use of fake images, verbal insults to “non-agreers”, multi profiles including a female one with access to the “ladies” room.
The only contribution you have made to the forum is reviving all the excellent votes which float around whenever one of the abhorrent trolls makes an unwelcome appearance.


While everyone discusses serious issues the duplicitous fake profile Maglorian which is only one of the several profiles he/she uses to sneak around the site is talking about feeding ducks. What a plank! On the bright side the appearance of Maglorian brought out Corbyn's fan to talk about vegetarians.
Male
Hierophant  Male  East Anglia
19-Sep-2020 09:41 Message #4792704
Of course you can only have the hump about people shooting grouse, pheasants and the like if you're one of those weed eating vegans.
I doubt many meat eaters are worrying too much if slaughterhouse workers are social distancing and complying to the rule of 6....
Male
Maglorian  Male  North Yorkshire
19-Sep-2020 09:52 Message #4792705
Thank you for your input hierop. Which confirms that 1 in 3 boris supporters are as stupid as the other two.
Female
NoSaint  Female  Devon
19-Sep-2020 09:58 Message #4792706
.Maglorian, AvitoDauphine, Wandering4Fun, Witheflow, withgoodintent, to use just a few of your names, you cannot escape your neo liberal cabal by pretending to have socialist ideals and pretending to care about others and pretending to want to help the poor. You really nasty piece of work.
You mock council house tenants? You laugh at littered communities? You make racist comments? You make snide homophobic remarks? You hate seeing the poor being helped and attack every thread where caring people try to help others. The use of fake images, verbal insults to “non-agreers”, multi profiles including a female one with access to the “ladies” room.
The only contribution you have made to the forum is reviving all the excellent votes which float around whenever one of the abhorrent trolls makes an unwelcome appearance.


Many might be more likely to believe that it is the duplicitous fake profiles spreading their nasty venom who are the stupid ones. Nothing to do with who they support or their political beliefs. Stupid is stupid and only stupid would believe having fake profiles is acceptable.
Male
Hierophant  Male  East Anglia
19-Sep-2020 09:59 Message #4792707
Thank you Mags, Michael, Beach, Dimwrongun or whoever you are....
Female
Andromeda  Female  Berkshire
19-Sep-2020 10:01 Message #4792708
I think the rule of 6 is a good one. It is also one that even those confused people we hear about should be capable of understanding and following but I'm sure many will still ignore. It might depend on the circumstances but I don't think I will be reporting anyone.

I agree with you colonel.
Female
wonderoushen  Female  Gwynedd
19-Sep-2020 10:15 Message #4792709
Well given the number of Covid outbreaks that are happening in meat factories and processing plants, they should be. We had an outbreak here that was traced to a chicken factory, its a big employer and people come from all around the island to work there, luckily it was contained, eventually, but it was a close thing.

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