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Covid19

No wonder it's spreading

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Aely  Female  Hampshire
7-Sep-2020 15:14 Message #4791671
Heading towards the local Convenience store I see 3 teenage girls (about 16 years old), no masks, coming out. As I get closer they use a straw to drink their soft drinks (to avoid touching cans with lips or to avoid smudging make-up?). Note: A straw. One straw between them. Passing it round.

Duh!
Male
HotOrWot  Male  Lancashire
7-Sep-2020 22:18 Message #4791708
I'm sure the scenario you saw is happening around the country Aely but my own observations show most people adhering to the rules.
Male
HotOrWot  Male  Lancashire
8-Sep-2020 07:23 Message #4791732
By now it is unlikely that there is anyone over the age of about five that is not fully aware of the necessary precautions but also the common sense element. Obviously some will always flout the rules.
Male
Pboro Trevor  Male  Cambridgeshire
8-Sep-2020 09:26 Message #4791759
It appears that most new cases are amongst the under 30 age groups. Now why are we not surprised?

Trevor
Male
Hierophant  Male  East Anglia
8-Sep-2020 10:37 Message #4791763
One theory is the wearing of masks is making people less likely to social distance because they think the flappy bit of paper over their face is keeping them safe.
Who knows, but I always said the mask thing was more psychological than medical....
Male
Colonel_Blink  Male  Buckinghamshire
8-Sep-2020 10:42 Message #4791764
We have always been informed that the masks might give some protection but are intended to prevent those who might be unaware they have the virus from spreading it to others when they cough, sneeze or do anything which might involve even small amounts of spittle landing on others. How can anyone be too thick to understand that.

You are right about the psychological effects too. Not just making others safer but making them feel safer seeing those around them being more careful.
Female
wonderoushen  Female  Gwynedd
8-Sep-2020 10:56 Message #4791765
Under 30's account for just under 30% of cases, which means that 70% are spread by those over 30, sort of puts a different on it when you look at it like that
Male
tumbled  Male  Gloucestershire
8-Sep-2020 12:10 Message #4791782
70% of people reading the above post could think that wh is morphing into del....

30% may not think it.....

and the other 40% can't add up.....
Male
Hierophant  Male  East Anglia
8-Sep-2020 12:14 Message #4791783
The latest figures apparently show the problem is amongst the 17 - 29 year old age group.
So those three 16 year old girls are not to blame.... lol
Female
wonderoushen  Female  Gwynedd
8-Sep-2020 18:48 Message #4791802
I saw loads of family groups out wandering about the shops today, no masks, no social distancing, kids running about, I wondered what on earth was wrong with those people and its no surprise that the infection rate is going up.
Female
Gilpin  Female  Middlesex
8-Sep-2020 23:37 Message #4791820
I don't think any young people are wearing masks now. It said somewhere they think it is some kind of cult taboo, non-trendy or something. I did ask one of them in Next the other day if she enjoyed being a spreader. She looked completely blank. Maybe she had to think about it.
Male
connexkev  Male  East Sussex
9-Sep-2020 01:08 Message #4791822
Now we have new rules that ban gatherings of more than six people starting in England on Monday, September 10th.
This will apply indoors and outdoors too, should be interesting what happens if there are any demos next week.
Female
wonderoushen  Female  Gwynedd
9-Sep-2020 09:46 Message #4791840
I've seen plenty of young people wearing masks, I think some people want to wear them and others don't/won't, its not just young people, its across all age groups.
Male
tumbled  Male  Gloucestershire
9-Sep-2020 09:57 Message #4791842
Although it's probably all age groups....there does seem to be a lot of the younger generation who appear to be flouting the rules.....

I thought that they were meant to be the generation that cares so much about everything.....The environment etc....

I know it's a generalisation.....but littering also seems to be rife amongst that generation.........Fast food cartons everywhere....

I'm not saying that the older generations don't do it.....but, in my opinion, some of the younger generation totally don't give a toss about tossing their rubbish all over the place....whilst not wearing masks.....and cycling on the pavements.....and.....

Male
terry  Male  West Yorkshire
9-Sep-2020 10:10 Message #4791844
I'm tempted to think there are two lines of thought running through people's minds (ignoring the ones who are just too bloody minded to take precautions)

1. Is where people are just so fed up of the whole thing and think, "sod it, if I get it I get it, I could just as easily be killed walking under a ladder"

2. Is where people think, "life goes on so we've just to get on and get out there"

What I find really sad is the people who have been shielding since it first started, my neighbours downstairs haven't been out of their flats - other than for hospital appointments - and were just starting to hope they'd get to see their grandkids and now we have this second 'wave' so they're now again too afraid to step outside their doors.

What I also find frustrating, and I take on board what's been said many times that this is a 'new' illness, is throughout time we've had pandemics, so whilst we may not know much about how Covid works, we should know how to control a pandemic yet from the start we seem to have ignored history (by 'we' I'm talking about the whole of mankind - although I also think this bunch of wasters in power here have cared little and done too little too late)
Male
Hierophant  Male  East Anglia
9-Sep-2020 10:14 Message #4791846
Well if the reaction out in the wider world is anything like the reaction on social media, these new rules are making people very angry.
I said this back in late May or whenever it was when news of the Cummings incident broke, but there's more to this than meets the eye.

I know it sounds a crazy theory, but fear still seems to be gripping a lot of people and making them wary about returning to work etc.
London is a ghost town apparently and civil service unions are battling the govt regarding staff returning to offices, we seem to be stuck in a permanent state of fear.
The best way to get people to forget their fear is to get them riled and angry.

Loads on social media are saying "f*ck the govt, I've had enough of this" and they are, at least saying, they will do the opposite to what the govt are now telling them to do.
Is this a rather ingenious way of subtly trying to alter the public mood or am I overthinking all of this?....
Male
Colonel_Blink  Male  Buckinghamshire
9-Sep-2020 10:56 Message #4791848
Social media is the enemy of the people most of the time. It's ok if you want to find a lost dog but practically everything else is just I'll-informed posters sharing their misinformation with everyone else daft enough to be listening.
This pandemic has been a perfect example of that. Clear information from day one of the correct rules to follow. Yes of course they are constantly changing because it's a previously unknown virus behaving in an unpredictable way.
Is wearing a mask such an earth shattering thing to do? Does it matter if I sanitise my hands more often? Did it really harm me staying away from others for a few months? Will I be traumatised for life if I restrict my social gatherings to 6 people?
While people around the world are contracting this awful virus and many are dying social media continues to nit pick with petty arguments and trivialities.
Male
Hierophant  Male  East Anglia
9-Sep-2020 11:42 Message #4791857
You do realise this is social media right?...
Female
Minnie-the-Minx  Female  Hertfordshire
9-Sep-2020 14:37 Message #4791858
Wearing a mask didn't stop me from catching a cold, so I doubt that it will stop me from catching covid if I come into contact with the wrong person.
Male
HonestBob  Male  the Central region
9-Sep-2020 14:47 Message #4791859
"You do realise this is social media right?..."

........ Hehehe
Female
LadyVera  Female  Cumbria
9-Sep-2020 15:07 Message #4791860
If you have a cold and are also asymptomatic with the coronavirus your mask could prevent your sneeze passing the virus onto others including others who are more vulnerable.
We wear the mask to prevent us spreading the infection not to protect ourselves.
Female
Gilpin  Female  Middlesex
9-Sep-2020 20:03 Message #4791879
Wearing a mask didn't stop me from catching a cold, so I doubt that it will stop me from catching covid if I come into contact with the wrong person.
……………………..…………………………………………..

………. the logic of that then, is, if you don't have the virus a mask is redundant.

But I suppose not everyone, unless self isolating, can be sure they don't have it. I'm sure I don't have it, but I suppose I could have caught it, even if mildly, at some stage. Masks are not 100% foolproof.

Distancing is probably the most effective. And covid is very virulent. Close contact for longer than 10 mins. with someone who has it, and it's pretty much guaranteed you will get it.
Male
Maglorian  Male  North Yorkshire
10-Sep-2020 16:57 Message #4791957
S cientists blamed for wrong advice
C are homes blamed for not following the rules
A lgorithm blamed for A level down grades
P ublic Health England blamed for Covid mishandling
E U blamed for lack of Brexit deal
G renfell residents blamed for not using common sense
O fqual blamed for exam fiasco
A dministrative error blamed for lack of PPE
T rade Unions blamed for schools being shut

The most corrupt and incompetent government this country has ever had, now blame the young.
Female
NoSaint  Female  Devon
10-Sep-2020 17:55 Message #4791960
.Maglorian, AvitoDauphine, Wandering4Fun, Witheflow, withgoodintent, to use just a few of your names, you cannot escape your neo liberal cabal by pretending to have socialist ideals and pretending to care about others and pretending to want to help the poor. You really nasty piece of work.
You mock council house tenants? You laugh at littered communities? You make racist comments? You make snide homophobic remarks? You hate seeing the poor being helped and attack every thread where caring people try to help others. The use of fake images, verbal insults to “non-agreers”, multi profiles including a female one with access to the “ladies” room.
The only contribution you have made to the forum is reviving all the excellent votes which float around whenever one of the abhorrent trolls makes an unwelcome appearance.


M - Miserable.
A - Always posting nonsense.
G - Good source of misinformation.
L - Liar.
O - On a mission to spread misery.
R - Racist.
I - Insignificant.
A - A troll of the worst kind.
N - Never positive about anything except his own posts.

The most ignorant and dishonest poster this site has ever had now blames everyone but himself.
Female
Gilpin  Female  Middlesex
10-Sep-2020 21:03 Message #4791977
S cientists blamed for wrong advice
C are homes blamed for not following the rules
A lgorithm blamed for A level down grades
P ublic Health England blamed for Covid mishandling
E U blamed for lack of Brexit deal
G renfell residents blamed for not using common sense
O fqual blamed for exam fiasco
A dministrative error blamed for lack of PPE
T rade Unions blamed for schools being shut

The most corrupt and incompetent government this country has ever had, now blame the young.
...................................................................

Ok

I'm not sure they followed the scientists advice or not, to be honest
I did not have a lot of faith in their scientists or science.
Care homes was a outright lie, Mat Hancock can look forward to
that when his inquiry comes round.
Public Health England - Matt Hancock I believe.
Whose idea was the algorithm?
EU does not want a deal, the EU wants us and our money as a
vassal state to their project.
Grenfell .... I'm not sure that makes sense
PPE is/was a complete joke. Yes. A government complete
disaster
Trade Unions blamed for school being shut? I haven't heard that one.

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