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Rebecca

Long Bailey

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NotHermit  Male  Derbyshire
25-Jun-2020 20:00 Message #4784779
Another political simpleton hits the deck?
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Hierophant  Male  East Anglia
25-Jun-2020 20:06 Message #4784780
Ha ha ha ha ha.... lol
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Neros1954  Male  Devon
25-Jun-2020 20:09 Message #4784781
The whole episode was no surprise. She is a cohort of Corbyn who never discouraged the anti-semitism in the party and it left Starmer with an opportunity to do something positive about the shameful behaviour of Labour for many years.
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Hierophant  Male  East Anglia
25-Jun-2020 20:17 Message #4784783
Starmer's heading for a fight with the Corbyn fanatics who just can't let go.
Is he strong enough to defeat them and make Labour electable again?...
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NotHermit  Male  Derbyshire
25-Jun-2020 22:10 Message #4784791
Laura Kuensberg asked Starmer if Boris was a strong leader?
Answer Of course not
But he could deliver that comment without arrogance, that is a rare talent.

He is after the dinosaurs in the Labour Party, then if he is lucky, Boris will still be leader at the next election.

In the meantime, lots of fun watching the simpletons.
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fosy  Male  Leicestershire
25-Jun-2020 22:20 Message #4784792
i bet when she heard she,d been sacked it made her frown.....and brought those eyebrows crashing down...;¬)
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Gilpin  Female  Middlesex
25-Jun-2020 22:31 Message #4784794
It was Maxine Peake who claimed that US police learnt the practice of kneeling on people’s necks “from seminars with Israeli secret services”. And Rebecca L-B decided to reveal it. I don't think its actually been mentioned in the thread.

A practice used by Israeli forces while policing the occupied territories. Rebecca L-B, personally, you have a right to say it, I think I even applaud you for it. But bad luck, there's one rule for one, quite another for others.
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tsunamiwarrior  Male  Hertfordshire
25-Jun-2020 22:44 Message #4784796
Awful as it may seem the practise of kneeling on the neck during an arrest and in particular when a single officer is handcuffing a suspect is common practise in almost every country in the world. It is even used by doormen and other security personnel. Some states in America have banned it but many haven't.
We don't hear much about it because it does not normally end in a fatality.
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HotOrWot  Male  Lancashire
25-Jun-2020 23:02 Message #4784802
The whole episode was no surprise. She is a cohort of Corbyn who never discouraged the anti-semitism in the party and it left Starmer with an opportunity to do something positive about the shameful behaviour of Labour for many years.

For all of Corbyn's leadership and a long time before the inherent antisemitism in Labour have lost it a lot of support. It has been so bad that party members have long stopped trying to deny it exists.
Starmer had promised to reform the party in this respect and this is hopefully the first step.
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NotHermit  Male  Derbyshire
26-Jun-2020 07:54 Message #4784811
Maxine Peake retracted the statement, but RLB refused.
Her simpleton political brain, thought she had something to negotiate with.
She wanted to talk to Starmer about it?
Even after she was asked to remove it, without removing it!
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RAACH84  Female  Buckinghamshire
26-Jun-2020 07:56 Message #4784813
A lot of people were worried about RLB becoming Labour leader and this confirms they were right to be worried.
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Victoriana11  Female  Buckinghamshire
26-Jun-2020 08:11 Message #4784817
Tthank goodness for that - brownie points for K ST
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wonderoushen  Female  Gwynedd
26-Jun-2020 10:11 Message #4784826
I could never be doing with RLB, although I do think this was an excuse to get rid of her, I just hope she dosen't get organising a Corbynite resistance from the back benches. I go the impression that Starmer only gave her a cabinet post out of courtesy and gave her something fairly neutral and low profile.
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Maglorian  Male  North Yorkshire
26-Jun-2020 10:14 Message #4784827
All the people on the left - Wap Bam Boogie!
All the people on the right - Boogaloo!

The British establishment's media’s U-turn in its attitude towards the Labour Party, since the departure of Jeremy Corbyn as leader has been swift and extraordinary to watch. After years of berating the party and its leadership, many establishment journalists have now opened their loving arms to Corbyn’s successor, Keir Starmer.

Why has the media, by and large, welcomed Starmer as Labour leader? If he’s the ‘threat’ to the Conservatives we’ve been led to believe, then why would Britain’s largely Tory-leaning press approve of his appointment?

One of the great myths in western democracies is that establishment power and the vested interests associated with establishment power are embedded only in conservative or right-wing mainstream political parties. So if you start from the assumption that establishment interests always entrench themselves on… both sides of the mainstream political divide… within the Republican Party as much as the Democrats, and within the Tory Party as much as the Labour Party, then I think it becomes clear why we don’t actually live in what could be characterized as a one-party state… The reason why we had such a prolonged spate of Labour governments between 1997 and 2010 was precisely because the Labour government under Tony Blair, and to a large extent under Gordon Brown, represented the very same vested interests that most of the mainstream press speak on behalf of.

The safe assumption would be that so long as Labour has in place a leader that broadly speaks to the very same interests across the mainstream political divide, and that underpin Fleet Street and the mainstream press, at some point they will attract the interest and support of significant sections of the mainstream press.

And the reason for this is simple. Because while the press don’t have an interest… in real social change, in any kind of fundamental change, they absolutely have an interest in what we might call surface change or superficial change – because that’s the stuff of news. And frankly… the narrative exhausts itself if it’s simply an endless Tory government.

This is part of the game. This is the game we’re in. It’s a game about, fundamentally, not just media management but information control. Information control has always been fundamental to the sustainability of power. There may be slight differences in the way that Cummings does it to the way that Trump does it, to the way that Tony Blair and Alistair Campbell did it, but they’re all basically different tactics to pursue the same end goal and that is control information and control the narrative.

Meanwhile... (Some) of the electorate, prefer to fall into the Jingo Bingoisms and dance to the Wap Bam Boogie!

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NoSaint  Female  Devon
26-Jun-2020 11:10 Message #4784828
.Maglorian, AvitoDauphine, Wandering4Fun, Witheflow, withgoodintent, to use just a few of your names, you cannot escape your neo liberal cabal by pretending to have socialist ideals and pretending to care about others and pretending to want to help the poor. You really nasty piece of work.
You mock council house tenants? You laugh at littered communities? You make racist comments? You make snide homophobic remarks? You hate seeing the poor being helped and attack every thread where caring people try to help others. The use of fake images, verbal insults to “non-agreers”, multi profiles including a female one with access to the “ladies” room.
The only contribution you have made to the forum is reviving all the excellent votes which float around whenever one of the abhorrent trolls makes an unwelcome appearance.


Wap Bam Boogie you should have stopped at that. No surprise that the dire behaviour of a far left extremist brought you out of the woodwork.
No it is not a game. It is nasty vindictive anti-semitism which must be stamped out.
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NoSaint  Female  Devon
26-Jun-2020 11:12 Message #4784829
wonderoushen Female Gwynedd
26-Jun-2020 10:11 new Message #4784826
I could never be doing with RLB, although I do think this was an excuse to get rid of her, I just hope she dosen't get organising a Corbynite resistance from the back benches. I go the impression that Starmer only gave her a cabinet post out of courtesy and gave her something fairly neutral and low profile.


I agree. Basically he was lumbered with her and her outdated doctrines.
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Hierophant  Male  East Anglia
26-Jun-2020 11:18 Message #4784831
Sounding very much like Michael there Mags, you could almost be the same person wearing a slightly different hat....
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LadyVera  Female  Cumbria
26-Jun-2020 12:09 Message #4784835
I didn't like Rebecca Long Bailey and felt she was likely to prevent Labour appealing to those, like myself, who want to see a Labour government. Maxine Peake who Made the original tweet is another far left extremist who has made ridiculous statements before when she was a member of the Communist Party.
The party need to stamp out the anti semitism and become altogether a more caring party. A party to appeal to the ordinary person not just a handful of extreme left die-hards. This is a good chance for Starmer to grab the moral high ground and I hope his party support him.
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JustLyn  Female  Cheshire
26-Jun-2020 13:21 Message #4784840
TW,

I think the issue is the length of time the police officer did the pressure for, even though the victim said he couldn't breathe. It was obvious from the pictures he had wet himself due to the strain, yet the surrounding officers kept up the restraint.

I feel sorry for other officers because I imagine it is a very bullying environment and difficult to try and stop the one enjoying the power.

I noticed on another shot during the following riots, one white guy was knocked to the ground and when a police officer stopped to help him, 2-3 other officers pulled him away.
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Maglorian  Male  North Yorkshire
26-Jun-2020 16:21 Message #4784847
I cant help you with the paranoia Hiero. But feel free to spread it.
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tsunamiwarrior  Male  Hertfordshire
26-Jun-2020 16:32 Message #4784848
JustLyn. I agree with you absolutely. The act ions of that police officer were inexcusable and he had enough officers around him to make an arrest without that degree of violence. Thank goodness most police officers have a sense of decency even in the US. We are very lucky with our officers in the UK and it's no surprise they are admired around the world.

I was only pointing out that restraining a suspect with a knee on the neck is not unusual and has been around longer that the actress women who was stirring things up. When I worked as a door supervisor (or bouncer at the time) almost 40 years ago it was one of the most common forms of restraint (along with a stranglehold) and very likely still is.
If you imagine a angry criminal desperate to get away, a drunken clubber holding a broken bottle or a random troublemaker pulling a knife the plan is to get him on the ground and make sure he cannot get up because if he does that could be the end of your life.

It all comes down to violence breeding violence and there are very few exceptions to that saying.
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Victoriana11  Female  Buckinghamshire
26-Jun-2020 20:35 Message #4784876
Sorry to appear dumb but I dont know what " Jingo Bingoisms and dance to the Wap Bam Boogie!" means.
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FirmButFair-TrollPatrol  Male  North Yorkshire
26-Jun-2020 21:47 Message #4784879
LadyVera Female Cumbria
26-Jun-2020 12:09 new Message #4784835
I didn't like Rebecca Long Bailey and felt she was likely to prevent Labour appealing to those, like myself, who want to see a Labour government. Maxine Peake who Made the original tweet is another far left extremist who has made ridiculous statements before when she was a member of the Communist Party.
The party need to stamp out the anti semitism and become altogether a more caring party. A party to appeal to the ordinary person not just a handful of extreme left die-hards. This is a good chance for Starmer to grab the moral high ground and I hope his party support him.
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As usual LadyVera you make a lot of sense and with fairness too.
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FirmButFair-TrollPatrol  Male  North Yorkshire
26-Jun-2020 21:47 Message #4784880
LadyVera Female Cumbria
26-Jun-2020 12:09 new Message #4784835
I didn't like Rebecca Long Bailey and felt she was likely to prevent Labour appealing to those, like myself, who want to see a Labour government. Maxine Peake who Made the original tweet is another far left extremist who has made ridiculous statements before when she was a member of the Communist Party.
The party need to stamp out the anti semitism and become altogether a more caring party. A party to appeal to the ordinary person not just a handful of extreme left die-hards. This is a good chance for Starmer to grab the moral high ground and I hope his party support him.
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As usual LadyVera you make a lot of sense and with fairness too.


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