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There was nothing wrong with the Labour party....

There is everything wrong with the Tories.

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Michaelt  Male  Devon
27-Apr-2020 11:39 Message #4778147
The fact that the Tories have been in government for the best part of 40 years says more about the British public than it says about anything else.
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Andromeda  Female  Berkshire
27-Apr-2020 12:00 Message #4778152
That statement is correct Michael. The British public vote for the party they deem to be best and it has been the Tory Party for most of that time.
Of course we mustn't forget the years when Labour were successful in appealing to the British public when Tony Blair was voted in as Labour leader.
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Seasons-Greetings  Male  Essex
27-Apr-2020 13:43 Message #4778168
Yawn !! a different day, same old 5h1t
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Victoriana11  Female  Buckinghamshire
27-Apr-2020 15:58 Message #4778175
Surely you dont want to start yet another controversial head banging thread Michael.... or perhaps you do, you seem to like an argument.

Perhaps its time for your daily exercise walk.

Smiling...... V x
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NotHermit  Male  Derbyshire
27-Apr-2020 21:30 Message #4778201
WTF!
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The_Snow_Covered_Fool  Male  Cheshire
28-Apr-2020 06:44 Message #4778220
But at least its being done has it's own thread, not intruding on other threads that have nothing to do with politics.
Therefore giving people the choice to partake or not.
Thank you for that Michealt.




Chris.
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Michaelt  Male  Devon
28-Apr-2020 09:13 Message #4778229
Yes, the Tory party are the very best at creating poverty and hardship. The British public are political political retards, there ain't no other word to use.

As long as issues dont effect them, they dont give a damn.

When Tony Blair took office he took Labour to the right and continued as Mrs Thatcher's greatest success story by continuing what she started.
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Michaelt  Male  Devon
28-Apr-2020 09:20 Message #4778230
After reading these few comments so far, I repeat that these few people say more about themselves, than anything else.
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Hierophant  Male  East Anglia
28-Apr-2020 10:01 Message #4778236
"The British public are political political retards, there ain't no other word to use.
As long as issues dont effect them, they dont give a damn."

So logically by your definition, this supposed poverty and hardship caused by the Tories isn't affecting very many people at all. That indicates they're doing a pretty good job...
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Michaelt  Male  Devon
28-Apr-2020 10:10 Message #4778239
TheSnowCovered_Fool , What do you believe in politically ?
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Wandering4fun  Male  North Yorkshire
28-Apr-2020 10:27 Message #4778241
Like most of us he believes it's 2020 not 1970. You keep asking questions Michaelt but I have never seen you answer any of the dozens of questions put to you.
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Wandering4fun  Male  North Yorkshire
28-Apr-2020 10:27 Message #4778242
Like most of us he believes it's 2020 not 1970. You keep asking questions Michaelt but I have never seen you answer any of the dozens of questions put to you.
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Michaelt  Male  Devon
28-Apr-2020 11:17 Message #4778254
Wandering4fun, Ill wait for his answer to my question thank you. I guess you havent looked hard enough.
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Colonel_Blink  Male  Buckinghamshire
28-Apr-2020 11:24 Message #4778259
You know you never answer questions Michael. Do you think up the questions yourself? The Labour party was a rotten hulled sinking ship with an incompetent captain in charge for a long time and now the reapir patches are ready to be used and a new captain at the helm who needs the support of his crew or the ship will go back to sinking.

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SQL  Male  Devon
28-Apr-2020 12:38 Message #4778277
He doesn't have any answers, he only has his dogma. It's a little sad that he just doesn't seem to understand, he's always ranting that everyone else is 'uneducated' because they don't agree with his beliefs yet he is unable to expand on why he holds these beliefs.

One might say this is a typical extremist in that nothing other than his ideals are real. A sound debate is the way forward but no other beliefs are allowed in his restricted world.

SQL
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tumbled  Male  Gloucestershire
28-Apr-2020 13:02 Message #4778280
I wasn't going to get drawn in.....but I've got a spare few minutes.....

I just take michael's threads and posts as a pisstake....a wind up....nothing more.....I laugh at them....Always the same stuff....always the same reactions.....always the same counter reactions etc etc etc..


A lot of our own politics is reflected in our own situation.....For instance, I was employed all through the Thatcher years.....I was in the Merchant Navy originally, and actually joined a ship on Thatchers election day.....I then was up all night on cargo watch....

I left the Merch in 1980 and was employed elsewhere all through the 80's........In fact, all through my life, until a few years ago....when offshoring/redundancy and then ill health took over....

So from a personal point, I've nothing against Thatch.....I had family to raise....relationship to keep going...and I had a job...

Others without jobs...well, that was another story.....Their story.....Perhaps 'The Boys from the Blackstuff' type depressing story......Perhaps the coal miners story.....Perhaps any other story.....

During the Blair ( Michael's alternative Thatcher) years....I had a job also.......In fact I've had jobs for 39 years of my life.....

None of that was handed to me on a plate......I worked hard for it.....If I attended interviews for jobs, I did the right things to ensure that I had a good chance of getting the job.....I put the work in.....

If I hadn't bothered....I'm sure my outlook would have ended up different.....I may have been bitter and twisted all my life.....Felt hard done by....all sorts....

But by luck and Judgement and hard work....I've got through life.....no matter who the Government have been....

Others haven't been as 'lucky'.....or perhaps the 'luck' bit is more down to their own bad choices through life etc.....who knows...

Anyway, that's it for now.....After a fair post, well, I consider it fair anyway....perhaps michael could respond with some of his own life history......We might get a better idea of where he is coming from.....The hard life he has had perhaps....The bad choices he has made maybe.....the bad luck etc....

But, I agree with others, Michael doesn't seem to respond with anything very much apart from the same old same old...

He's just a wind up......Nothing more....nothing less...
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The_Snow_Covered_Fool  Male  Cheshire
28-Apr-2020 22:04 Message #4778334
Michealt,

My political stance is my own business. And that also goes for the other person who presumes what I think.

I was just thanking you ( not sarcastically ) for starting and commenting in politics on a political thread unlike others who bring it into non political threads.



Chris.
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Hierophant  Male  East Anglia
28-Apr-2020 22:12 Message #4778335
"The fact that the Tories have been in government for the best part of 40 years says more about the British public than it says about anything else."

We have fantastic taste?...
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NotHermit  Male  Derbyshire
28-Apr-2020 22:21 Message #4778340
Surely Cameron was a mistake though?
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Maglorian  Male  North Yorkshire
28-Apr-2020 23:51 Message #4778343
Interesting question you posed Michaelt. It stirred a few reactions and prodded some typical replies from people. My answer.. When the selfish ideology was unleashed in 1979 ish. The cancer has ravaged long since then, selfishness, individualism, greed and gain have ran rife. All sense of community and altruism took a far back seat. The British public have voted for politicians who feed their cancer. So, it says to me, that the British public are victims of their own delusion. They believe what they're told, that appeases their fears.

"The bourgeois newspapers, tell even the simplest of facts, in a way that favours the bourgeois class and damns the working class and it's politics.

Has a strike broken out? The workers are always wrong, as far as the bourgeois news papers are concerned. Is there a demonstration? The demonstrators are always wrong, hotheads, rioters, hoodlums. The government passes a law? It's always good, useful and just, even if it's .... not. And if there's an electoral, political or administrative struggle? The best programs and candidates are always those of the bourgeois parties."
Antonio Gramsci
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NoSaint  Female  Devon
29-Apr-2020 00:08 Message #4778344
.Maglorian, AvitoDauphine, Wandering4Fun, Witheflow, withgoodintent, to use just a few of your names, you cannot escape your neo liberal cabal by pretending to have socialist ideals and pretending to care about others and pretending to want to help the poor. You really nasty piece of work.
You mock council house tenants? You laugh at littered communities? You make racist comments? You make snide homophobic remarks? You hate seeing the poor being helped and attack every thread where caring people try to help others. The use of fake images, verbal insults to “non-agreers”, multi profiles including a female one with access to the “ladies” room.
The only contribution you have made to the forum is reviving all the excellent votes which float around whenever one of the abhorrent trolls makes an unwelcome appearance.


The Maglorian imaginary cabal strikes again for his old pal and much loved forum dinosaur. You are an rotten joke.

NoSaint.
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NoSaint  Female  Devon
29-Apr-2020 00:08 Message #4778345
.Maglorian, AvitoDauphine, Wandering4Fun, Witheflow, withgoodintent, to use just a few of your names, you cannot escape your neo liberal cabal by pretending to have socialist ideals and pretending to care about others and pretending to want to help the poor. You really nasty piece of work.
You mock council house tenants? You laugh at littered communities? You make racist comments? You make snide homophobic remarks? You hate seeing the poor being helped and attack every thread where caring people try to help others. The use of fake images, verbal insults to “non-agreers”, multi profiles including a female one with access to the “ladies” room.
The only contribution you have made to the forum is reviving all the excellent votes which float around whenever one of the abhorrent trolls makes an unwelcome appearance.


The Maglorian imaginary cabal strikes again for his old pal and much loved forum dinosaur. You are an rotten joke.

NoSaint.
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NotHermit  Male  Derbyshire
29-Apr-2020 22:38 Message #4778477
Who is Ann Rotten?
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Gilpin  Female  Middlesex
30-Apr-2020 20:50 Message #4778576
Well he title made me chuckle, so I opened the thread. But my eyes glazed over halfway down. What is the …. fascination? waring allegiance between these two parties. I wonder if its an hereditary thing, relating to which part of the country you come from.
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Michaelt  Male  Devon
19-May-2020 15:59 Message #4780244
Maglorian, """Interesting question you posed Michaelt. It stirred a few reactions and prodded some typical replies from people. My answer.. When the selfish ideology was unleashed in 1979 ish. The cancer has ravaged long since then, selfishness, individualism, greed and gain have ran rife. All sense of community and altruism took a far back seat. The British public have voted for politicians who feed their cancer. So, it says to me, that the British public are victims of their own delusion. They believe what they're told, that appeases their fears"""

Thank you for the above positive response comment to my posting.

How right you are about the British. I cannot understand why we just sit back and take all the crap the Tories feed us .??

I dont know what's lacking in us ?. We are a very uncaring nation.

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