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FoodBanks

Why have we got them ?

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Michaelt  Male  Devon
31-Mar-2020 19:59 Message #4774452
Your comments please ?
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NoSaint  Female  Devon
31-Mar-2020 20:12 Message #4774457
I’m surprised you don’t know the answer to that yourself. Foodbanks were introduced by the Labour Party to offer some help to those on very low incomes. One of the Labour Partys better ideas. They have been very successful in helping the poorer among us.
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Michaelt  Male  Devon
31-Mar-2020 21:17 Message #4774474
NoSaint , So you agree with FoodBanks in a rich country like ours ?
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Gilpin  Female  Middlesex
31-Mar-2020 21:40 Message #4774477
Food banks operate in many rich countries, not just this one. Poverty is worldwide, far worse than here.
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Michaelt  Male  Devon
31-Mar-2020 21:48 Message #4774481
Gilpin , Name the rich countries..?
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Gilpin  Female  Middlesex
31-Mar-2020 21:54 Message #4774483
There are over 30 countries with food banks, I am not naming them all. There are food banks in countries richer than us.
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brisinger-the-beekeeper  Male  Lancashire
31-Mar-2020 21:59 Message #4774485
*Name the rich countries..? *
Let's start off with a very rich country... America :-)
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Michaelt  Male  Devon
31-Mar-2020 22:15 Message #4774486
Gilpin, Why arent you naming them all ?
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persona_non_grata  Male  North London
31-Mar-2020 22:24 Message #4774490
Gilpin is correct that around 30 countries have foodbanks many of these within Europe. Germany has as many, possibly more foodbanks than the uk.
The poorest countries in the world do not have foodbanks.
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JustLyn  Female  Cheshire
31-Mar-2020 22:35 Message #4774492
Probably because it's tedious.


Needing a food bank was a good idea and probably intended for short term emergencies, not to be expanded into some National official means of long term survival.

To me it is a sign of systematic failure and anyone who thinks it's the solution and a good thing must be incapable of imagining life depending on one for months.

Food banks increased I think when the advent of the failing Universal Credit was forced in and woe betide those who were just seen as fodder and disposable as part of the experiment. Even Iain Duncan Smith resigned because he said Cameron and Osborne wouldn't put enough money into it.

I mean who in their right mind would think waiting 6 weeks for a first payment in a land of monthly outgoings wouldn't drive many into the ground?
Those making the laws knew that generous public would step in to donate, and it's often the one's who can least afford it that give most.

I can't bear to think of all the people who lost disability support, left months with no money. Yes, a food bank, great system stopping people starving because their life support money had just been cancelled. It really takes a strange sort of logic to think it's wonderful.
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Maglorian  Male  North Yorkshire
31-Mar-2020 22:38 Message #4774493
Foodbanks are a disgraceful necessity, only used in a sick society that has a corrupt moral and ethical code. It's just a clear revelation of a failed economic system. But many, as in the above comments, are ashamed but try and defend it by comparisons. Which clearly when challenged, with the country comparison example, they fail to reveal. Rather than trying to deflect and look for worse scenarios. Wouldn't it be braver and more caring, to look for improvement to this corrupt old selfish system? Instead alas, they prefer to look for a worse negative so as to negate it.
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Gilpin  Female  Middlesex
31-Mar-2020 22:42 Message #4774495
Why on earth should I name the 30 countries. Is there a particular country he's looking for. Pathetic. For want of a more descriptive adjective.
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brisinger-the-beekeeper  Male  Lancashire
1-Apr-2020 01:31 Message #4774501
To be fair you have made a sweeping statement without backing up which countries they are as evidence and the sources the data is retrieved from. Anybody could pluck a figure out of the air without backing up their claim...
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HotOrWot  Male  Lancashire
1-Apr-2020 07:43 Message #4774504
Gilpin is correct that around 30 countries have foodbanks many of these within Europe. Germany has as many, possibly more foodbanks than the uk.
The poorest countries in the world do not have foodbanks.


Gilpin is correct. In the U.K. foodbanks were introduced by Labour and as someone stated earlier it was one of their better ideas. They help those who are going through difficult times and there will always be some people going through difficult times.

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JustLyn  Female  Cheshire
1-Apr-2020 08:55 Message #4774520
Yes, but not to increase exponentially and become to go to place because have a failing benefit system.

Not sure when the credit card society arrived and many overstretched themselves which was good for the economy, but then we had those who couldn't manage money, an increasing gig economy and an over reliance on what not meant to become a management strategy as opposed to a rescue short term one off remedy.
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NoSaint  Female  Devon
1-Apr-2020 08:58 Message #4774522
HotOrWot Male Lancashire 1-Apr-2020 07:43 new Message #4774504
Gilpin is correct that around 30 countries have foodbanks many of these within Europe. Germany has as many, possibly more foodbanks than the uk.
The poorest countries in the world do not have foodbanks.

Gilpin is correct. In the U.K. foodbanks were introduced by Labour and as someone stated earlier it was one of their better ideas. They help those who are going through difficult times and there will always be some people going through difficult times.


It’s a very obvious fact that anything can only be bad if the Tories are doing it. Labour supporters are blinkered which is why their party is disintegrating.
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Hierophant  Male  East Anglia
1-Apr-2020 09:02 Message #4774524
Probably for much the same reason there are over 150,000 registered charities in the UK....
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Colonel_Blink  Male  Buckinghamshire
1-Apr-2020 09:19 Message #4774525
It could be the richest country in the world or the poorest country in the world but every country will always have plenty of citizens who can do with an extra bit of help. It is unrealistic to think otherwise and rather selfish and cruel to even think about stopping charities which do so much good.
Life is not a storybook Utopia where everyone’s lives are perfect. Charities do an enormous amount of good both in the uk and overseas and long may that continue.
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SQL  Male  Devon
1-Apr-2020 10:36 Message #4774528
Foodbanks exist in this country and many others, the reasons are well known. There is little point in taking sides and saying "they're good" or "we shouldn't have them" unless you have a usable solution. If you think the present system is wrong then please give an alternative solution in detail.

There is little point in just saying "a rich country should not need them" if you cannot propose a workable alternative.

SQL
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Michaelt  Male  Devon
1-Apr-2020 11:38 Message #4774535
Foodbanks were not introduced by the Labour party. FoodBanks were brought in by Tony Blair's right wing New Labour government because Tony Blair continued the late Margaret Thatcher's right wing race to the bottom free market agenda, including reducing the Welfare State. I make the point that the Tories have continued in office, and in doing so they have continued their right wing agenda to shrink the State, and privatise our vital services, and FoodBank usage has got worse. I regard most of the comments on here about Food banks as contemptible.

Also re- To get access to a food bank, you need a food bank voucher from a professional or organisation working with the foodbank. This might be a health or social care worker (GP, nurses, social worker etc.) or local charity such as Citizens Advice.13 Nov 2019..

New figures show April to September 2019 to be the busiest half-year period for food banks in the Trussell Trust’s network since the charity opened.

During the six months, 823,145 three-day emergency food parcels were given to people in crisis in the UK - more than a third of these (301,653) to children.

This is a 23% increase on the same period in 2018 – the sharpest rate of increase the charity has seen for the past five years.

'State of Hunger' report
The new figures come just a week after the Trussell Trust released 'State of Hunger', the most in-depth study ever published into hunger and the reasons for food bank use in the UK.

The research revealed:

The average weekly income of households at food banks is only £50 after paying rent
One in five have no money coming in at all in the month before being referred for emergency food
94% of people at food banks are destitute.
Reasons for people needing emergency food
The main reasons for people needing emergency food are:

Low benefit income (36%)

Delays (18%) or changes (16%) to benefits being paid.

'State of Hunger' shows there are three reasons for food bank use that happen together and leave people no protection from hunger and poverty.

These are:

Problems with the benefits system
Ill health or challenging life experiences
A lack of local support.
Five-week wait for Universal Credit
One of the key issues people at food banks face is the five-week wait for a first Universal Credit payment.

Although Universal Credit is not the only benefit payment people at food banks experience problems with, the majority (65%) of food bank referrals made in April – Sept 2019 because of a delay in benefits being paid in the UK were linked to Universal Credit.

At the moment, people moving onto the government’s new benefits system have to wait at least five weeks – and often longer – with no money. People can request an Advance Payment but this is a loan that must be paid back, often forcing people into debt.

The Trussell Trust's Call to Action
As the election nears, the Trussell Trust is calling for politicians on all sides to pledge to protect people from hunger by ensuring everyone has enough money for the basics. It is asking the next government to start working towards a future where no one needs a food bank by:

Ending the five-week wait for Universal Credit

Ensuring benefit payments cover the cost of living

Investing in local emergency support for people in crisis.

More information about food banks
Food banks, largely run by volunteers, provide emergency boxes of food (usually a supply for a minimum of three days) and offer support for people in a crisis. The food is donated by members of the local community. Many also give personal hygiene items such as toilet paper and soap.

Some foodbanks offer hot meals and advice sessions. They may also be able to refer you to other local agencies for further help, depending on your situation.

To get access to a food bank, you need a food bank voucher from a professional or organisation working with the foodbank. This might be a health or social care worker (GP, nurses, so
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Michaelt  Male  Devon
1-Apr-2020 12:03 Message #4774539
SQL, Are you forced to use a foodbank. ?
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BOYDEL  Male  Surrey
1-Apr-2020 12:10 Message #4774540
Presumably a new UC claimant on say 1st Feb was in work until 31 Jan and got a monthly wage paid at end of Jan - which would normally be expected to last to end of month - and the first UC payment would then be paid just a few days later?
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Michaelt  Male  Devon
1-Apr-2020 12:16 Message #4774544
Colonel_Blink, You are another one who clearly isnt forced to use a food bank. Nobody in today's world, rich country or otherwise should ever be forced to have to accept charity from any organisation or anybody else.

British Charities have huge overheads because we arent living in a utopia where people are doing something for nothing.

We are living in a country where we would sell our grannies for a fiver, and we do.
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Gilpin  Female  Middlesex
1-Apr-2020 12:23 Message #4774545
What huge overheads do Charities have?
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BOYDEL  Male  Surrey
1-Apr-2020 12:33 Message #4774547
Lots of Charities have a London HQ so as to be close to centre of power - and London staff cost a pretty penny as well as typically a 6 figure salary for CEO. Last time I checked Campbell Robb the former head of Shelter had a base salary of £128,000 pa.

At one extreme some have admin costs of up to 60% of donations.

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