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Nuclear Debris

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Mary  Female  Norfolk 9-Oct-2019 10:51 Message #4757066
Have these nuclear disasters caused health issues ?

With all that radiation now in our atmosphere and all around the world, I feel it has.

Forget Co2 emissions its nuclear that will kill us and our plant.
Female
wonderoushen  Female  Gwynedd 9-Oct-2019 11:15 Message #4757071
Radio carbon dating of archaeological remains has to be calibrated to pre and post the nuclear bomb. Its true that a nuclear war would kill the planet and that long term radiation exposure isn't good, but thats not an excuse to turn away from other dangerssuch as rising CO2 emmissions. One of the surprising things is how life is flourishing in the exclusion zone around Chernobyl, there's loads of wildife and so far nothing seems to have mutated. I guess we need to wait and see what happens longer term, but for many plants and creatures many generations have passed since the accident
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terry  Male  West Yorkshire 9-Oct-2019 13:13 Message #4757083
Have nuclear disasters caused health issues? probably more so than we know or are told about, our news and media outlets are more interested in feeding us our loved diets of public interest stories they want and 'celebrity' tittle tattle. I'm not sure we'd like the answers if we ever had the full story about all the different ways we're destroying ourselves - and I don't mean the drinking and smoking and other such lifestyle traits.

But it always comes down to the cost factor...what's a few lives when the profits are so high, we're obviously not bothered so long as we have our new whatever and the grub we eat tastes nice.
Female
NoSaint  Female  Devon 9-Oct-2019 14:10 Message #4757092
So not just down to cost terry we mustn't forget self indulgence which is perhaps the biggest culprit.
Male
terry  Male  West Yorkshire 9-Oct-2019 15:49 Message #4757110
Good point NoSaint, you are of course right, I hadn't thought to put the two together. As a species we really do need to start thinking differently about our existence.
Male
Good2BWith  Male  West Yorkshire 9-Oct-2019 21:36 Message #4757137
I'm at least equally concerned about the atmospheric Atomic & Nuclear bomb tests.

However, some FACTS:

The National Resources Defense Council estimated the total yield of all nuclear tests conducted between 1945 and 1980 at 510 megatons (Mt).
Atmospheric tests alone accounted for 428 mt, equivalent to over 29,000 Hiroshima size bombs.

The 2000 Report of the United Nations Scientific Committee on the Effects of Atomic Radiation to the General Assembly states that:
“The main man-made (sic) contribution to the exposure of the world's population [to radiation] has come from the testing of nuclear weapons in the atmosphere, from 1945 to 1980. Each nuclear test resulted in unrestrained release into the environment of substantial quantities of radioactive materials, which were widely dispersed in the atmosphere and deposited everywhere on the Earth’s surface.”

(A) study predicted that roughly 2.4 million people could eventually die from cancer as a result of atmospheric testing.

ctbto.org/nuclear-testing/the-effects-of-nuclear-testing/general-overview-of-theeffects-of-nuclear-testing/

No wonder the "World Leaders" squabble about which was the worst accident - Three Mile Island, Fukushima or Chernobyl - it keeps us from demanding that action be taken to mitigate the much worse effects of those atmospheric "tests".
Female
NoSaint  Female  Devon 9-Oct-2019 21:55 Message #4757142
Terry. If people weren’t so greedy as individuals the world would be so selfish as a whole.
Male
MrQuiet  Male  Northamptonshire 10-Oct-2019 06:21 Message #4757186
I watched a documentary a few years ago which filmed a number of people living very close to the “uninhabitable” grounds only a few metres from the Chernobyl reactor. They were growing produce and eating it and had lived there for years.
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Neros1954  Male  Devon 10-Oct-2019 09:04 Message #4757203
I don’t think the experts know very much either.
Female
JustLyn  Female  Cheshire 10-Oct-2019 09:35 Message #4757208
Good2BeWith

Very good points with good evidence as usual...and a little shorter and easier to read :-)

I always welcome FACTS.

It is both sad and helpful that the worst accidents such as Fukushima and Chernobyl has kept us demanding action, otherwise we might have slipped into even more complacency that sadly, human nature is inclined to fall into.
Wow, 2.4 million could die from atmospheric testing. North Korea springs to mind, a damned if we do and damned if we don't re intervention. We need very sensitive negotiation skills from major world leaders ;-)
Male
HotOrWot  Male  Lancashire 10-Oct-2019 15:34 Message #4757256
I watched a documentary a few years ago which filmed a number of people living very close to the “uninhabitable” grounds only a few metres from the Chernobyl reactor. They were growing produce and eating it and had lived there for years.

I watched that programme or one on a similar report. It leaves the mind boggling as to the real dangers.
Male
Good2BWith  Male  West Yorkshire 10-Oct-2019 16:08 Message #4757260
JustLyn Sex icon 10-Oct-2019 09:35

Whilst in general agreement with the thrust of your latest, I fear that you have fallen into the US/A inspired trap v-a-v North Korea.
What I'm calling for is action to mitigate the results of the atmospheric testing of Atomic and Nuclear weapons.

North Korea is a minnow run by a self-perpetuating autocratic family whose Motto is
"Off with their Heads"
However, they have proved to the world at large that to stay safe from invasion by US/A and its pack of running-dogs = NATO,
You've gotta have a Nuclear bomb or two, Peeps
You've gotta have a Nuclear bomb or two.


Far more worrying in terms of first use Nuclear 'bombs' - and hence planetary annihilation - are those nations governed by Far-Right forces in coalition with a bunch of swivel-eyed god-botherers.
Male
Good2BWith  Male  West Yorkshire 10-Oct-2019 16:12 Message #4757261
HotOrWot Sex icon 10-Oct-2019 15:34
I watched that programme or one on a similar report. It leaves the mind boggling as to the real dangers.
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Why am I not surprized at that statement from you?
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tsunamiwarrior  Male  Hertfordshire 10-Oct-2019 16:25 Message #4757263
NoSaint Female Devon 9-Oct-2019 21:55 new Message #4757142
Terry. If people weren’t so greedy as individuals the world would be so selfish as a whole.


Most of the worlds probklems are created by selfish and greedy individuals who who want power, money or both and people like that are dangerous with any weaponary but especially with nuclear capabilities.

I agree the experts still have a lot to learn about the dangers of radiation and the long tern effcts.

Male
Good2BWith  Male  West Yorkshire 10-Oct-2019 18:57 Message #4757303
tsunamiwarrior Sex icon 10-Oct-2019 16:25
I agree the experts still have a lot to learn about the dangers of radiation and the long tern effcts.
(sic)

1.0 Which experts?
1.1 About what?

2.0 I agree the experts still have a lot to learn about the dangers of radiation and the long tern effcts.
2.1 I'm frankly puzzled by this statement.
2.2 How do you KNOW that the experts "still have a lot ...."?
2.3 If you did know that, you'd know what they didn't know.
2.4 If that IS the case, you're either about to hold the world to ransom for the knowledge that you have and the experts don't
or
2.5 You're about to reveal your secrets and be the first person to win the Nobel Prizes for Peace and all the Physical Sciences.

3.0 On the other hand, you may be just a silly fellow blowing off hot air.

I tend to favour # 3.0.
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MrQuiet  Male  Northamptonshire 10-Oct-2019 19:07 Message #4757304
tsunamiwarrior Sex icon 10-Oct-2019 16:25
I agree the experts still have a lot to learn about the dangers of radiation and the long tern effects


G2BW. Do you believe that we now know everything there is to know about nuclear power and radiation? Do you not believe that even the specialists have more to learn.
Male
HotOrWot  Male  Lancashire 10-Oct-2019 22:38 Message #4757365
G2BW. Do you believe that we now know everything there is to know about nuclear power and radiation? Do you not believe that even the specialists have more to learn.

Good question.
Male
Colonel_Blink  Male  Buckinghamshire 11-Oct-2019 21:17 Message #4757548
A good question with a very obvious answer. Scientists still know very little about atomic energy, radiation, the long term effects of radiation or the life of the nuclear waste.
Male
Good2BWith  Male  West Yorkshire 12-Oct-2019 05:26 Message #4757572
It is to be doubted, Staff Officer Blink, that YOU know anything substantial about what knowledge IS known about
atomic energy, radiation, the long term effects of radiation or the life of the nuclear waste.
Prove that YOU know what IS known and what IS NOT known.
Male
Good2BWith  Male  West Yorkshire 12-Oct-2019 05:26 Message #4757573
It is to be doubted, Staff Officer Blink, that YOU know anything substantial about what knowledge IS known about
atomic energy, radiation, the long term effects of radiation or the life of the nuclear waste.
Prove that YOU know what IS known and what IS NOT known.
Male
Good2BWith  Male  West Yorkshire 12-Oct-2019 05:32 Message #4757575
Mary Female Norfolk9-Oct-2019 10:51 Message #4757066, wrote:

1.0 Nuclear Debris

2.0 Russia and Japan

3.0 Have these nuclear disasters caused health issues ?

4.0 With all that radiation now in our atmosphere and all around the world, I feel it has.

5.0 Forget Co2 emissions its nuclear that will kill us and our plant.
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1.1 Given the apocalyptic seriousness of #5 ( Forget Co2 emissions its nuclear that will kill us and our plant(et) just WHAT is this Nuclear Debris and where is it?
AND
@ 2.0 Why are only Russia and Japan named when US/A had Three-Mile Island?

@ 3,0 Have these nuclear disasters caused health issues?
3.1 Again, given the apocalyptic seriousness of #5, rather than asking the question and answering it with what the author feels (@#4) should the readers not have been supplied with verifiable Evidence?

Having got this far, it now becomes clear @ #5 that the writer is using this unproven decoy to support their Denier position on Climate change and PRO neo-liberal, pro-fossil fuel burning position.
Male
Good2BWith  Male  West Yorkshire 12-Oct-2019 05:41 Message #4757576
MrQuiet Sex icon 10-Oct-2019 19:07
tsunamiwarrior Sex icon 10-Oct-2019 16:25
I agree the experts still have a lot to learn about the dangers of radiation and the long tern effects


G2BW. Do you believe that we now know everything there is to know about nuclear power and radiation? Do you not believe that even the specialists have more to learn.

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You are exposing your complete LACK of any knowledge of the method of proving any claimed point and using the The Moon is made of green cheese - if you can't prove me wrong then I must be right utterly dishonest ploy.

You are nothing but a puffed-up charlatan - a spreader of gossip.
Male
MrQuiet  Male  Northamptonshire 12-Oct-2019 06:50 Message #4757585
Good2BWitheflowinggoodintentWandering4fun has spoken.

He has indeed spoken and taken another very good, friendly and sensible thread into the realms of farce with his inane, or perhaps insane, ranting. Will he turn every thread into a miserable rant?
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TrollPatrol  Male  North Yorkshire 12-Oct-2019 08:48 Message #4757606
A good question with a very obvious answer. Scientists still know very little about atomic energy, radiation, the long term effects of radiation or the life of the nuclear waste.

Scientists have inquiring minds so science never stands still and new discoveries constantly made.
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Good2BWith  Male  West Yorkshire 12-Oct-2019 09:23 Message #4757609
MrQuiet Male Northamptonshire12-Oct-2019 06:50 new Message #4757585
Good2BWitheflowinggoodintentWandering4fun has spoken.

He has indeed spoken and taken another very good, friendly and sensible thread into the realms of farce with his inane, or perhaps insane, ranting. Will he turn every thread into a miserable rant?
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Ahhhh - "... (a) very good, friendly and sensible thread ..."
One purporting to be dealing with the question of the excruciatingly painful death of countless millions from radiation-induced cancers versus a rejected Armageddon induced by flooding and starvation resulting from the unfettered production of 'Green-house gasses'.

And you consider THAT to be "... (a) very good, friendly and sensible thread ..."?

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