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Apathy and political ignorance run this country.

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Michaelt  Male  Devon 6-Jul-2019 10:33 Message #4743900
The formula isn't new. Starve people of jobs, money, sustenance and pride in themselves, then blame 'foreigners' and attack people for the situation they find themselves in, so the 'right' message is pumped out daily, and bingo.

Government rely on people simply accepting this garbage, without independent FACT checking.

I've lost count of the times I've challenged posts/memes saying things like, 'Britain is full!' and worse, much worse, because when shown the actual facts, they choose to ignore. Nazi Germany started this way, and wasn't THAT long ago.

About 10 miles from me there is a place run by the woman who set it up. She has volunteers to help her.

She gives food showers and clothes to people of all ages and backgrounds who are starving due to government cuts in Welfare, and who have no money due to having to wait for the new Universal Credit to come through.

She gives all manner of things and food, to mums with toddlers , where the mum has'nt eaten for days, she gives the food to her child.

She has people coming to see her telling her that the unemployed should be exterminated because they are a drain on society.
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Hierophant  Male  East Anglia 6-Jul-2019 11:06 Message #4743905
Food showers sound positively kinky...
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Good2BWith  Male  West Yorkshire 6-Jul-2019 11:37 Message #4743910
Michaelt 6-Jul-2019 10:33

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"She has people coming to see her telling her that the unemployed should be exterminated because they are a drain on society."

Which is exactly what the Government, via its Outsourced, arms-length agencies is doing - slowly.
The strategy is that of Siege.
* Destroy all means of sustenance (massive un-employment);
* Unbalance the economy - a Minimum 5 weeks wait for Universal Credit - and then a change from per week to per month.
* Enhance the occurrence and spread of ill-health and sickness - massive cuts in the budgets for the NHS - in some cases Trust must 'save' 25%
* Restrict access to vital-to-life utilities - Unjustifiable rises above inflation for WATER, gas, electricity etc
* Impede mobility - de-municipalize bus services, cut them back to nil or a bare minimum, escalate the fares.
* Encourage dissent and unrest amongst the populace - blame everything on "Foreigners", immigrants, people with a non-'white' skin colouration, ...

These are but a few of the tactics used in the Tories' Siege Strategy to eliminate the surplus Untermenschen which the neo-liberal system no longer requires to work to death.
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NotHermit  Male  Derbyshire 6-Jul-2019 11:41 Message #4743912
Have you had a shower yet G2B?
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fosy  Male  Leicestershire 6-Jul-2019 12:14 Message #4743917
it is rather musty in here.

maybe change the inco pad at the same time ;¬)
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Michaelt  Male  Devon 6-Jul-2019 13:20 Message #4743921
Good2BWith , Well said...
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Hierophant  Male  East Anglia 6-Jul-2019 13:47 Message #4743922
"Starve people of jobs, money, sustenance and pride in themselves, then blame 'foreigners' and attack people for the situation they find themselves in, so the 'right' message is pumped out daily, and bingo."

Presumably, "bingo" is mission accomplished, so what is bingo?...
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tsunamiwarrior  Male  Hertfordshire 6-Jul-2019 13:55 Message #4743923
When you think how much worse it would be if Corbyn and Communist Momentum got their grubby self serving hands on society and enforced their iron fist rule which harmed the country so many times in the past. Then the poor would really suffer.

Thank goodness for small mercies.
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Michaelt  Male  Devon 6-Jul-2019 15:32 Message #4743933
tsunamiwarrior , Talk about judging a man before he's even started. Corbyn the iron man. Thatcher the iron lady.

There was no more self serving than Thatcher, her own Ministers got rid of her in the end.
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Good2BWith  Male  West Yorkshire 6-Jul-2019 15:55 Message #4743936
@Michaelt 6-Jul-2019 15:32

And after all the suicides, premature deaths, ruined lives, misery & breakdowns in Society caused by HER policies forced on lilly livered Tory Cabinet Ministers and MPs, the only time she shed a tear (In public) was for her own defeat - and hopefully, humiliation.
Even after her sacking her arrogance knew no bounds as she demanded a Peerage which could be handed on down the generations, and particularly to her gun-running, military-coup involved, lost in the desert, son.

D.G. she didn't get that one.
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HotOrWot  Male  Lancashire 6-Jul-2019 16:20 Message #4743941
When you think how much worse it would be if Corbyn and Communist Momentum got their grubby self serving hands on society and enforced their iron fist rule which harmed the country so many times in the past. Then the poor would really suffer.

Thank goodness for small mercies.


It’s what the nation dreads. It’s certainly what anyone Jewish dreads.
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Hierophant  Male  East Anglia 6-Jul-2019 16:35 Message #4743944
It seems at last the nation is coming to it's senses, Corbyn has well and truly spaffed it up the wall. You poor old socialists, it looks like you will have to wait another 40 years - blimey, old boy G2BW will have blown a gasket by then...

Westminster voting intention:

CON: 24% (+2)
BREX: 23% (+1)
LDEM: 20% (+1)
LAB: 18% (-2)
GRN: 9% (-1)

via @YouGov, 02 - 03 Jul Chgs. w/ 25 Jun
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Michaelt  Male  Devon 6-Jul-2019 17:42 Message #4743948
Hierophant, Knowing the result of over 40 years of right wing rule are food banks, and privatisation of the NHS, i think you are bonkers, absolutely bonkers.
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Colonel_Blink  Male  Buckinghamshire 6-Jul-2019 17:45 Message #4743949
Food banks were down to Labour and Blair crucified the NHS. It’s a shame that Labour bring the country down and then blame Tories when they are left having to put things right.

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mancers  Male  Greater Manchester 6-Jul-2019 18:52 Message #4743954
The Tories are doing a fine job Colonel Blip, they are coining it in but let’s blame Labour eh, was it Harold Wilson’s fault, naughty man .
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HotOrWot  Male  Lancashire 6-Jul-2019 19:06 Message #4743957
Food banks were down to Labour and Blair crucified the NHS. It’s a shame that Labour bring the country down and then blame Tories when they are left having to put things right.

Everyone knows you are right but will they admit it ...
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mancers  Male  Greater Manchester 6-Jul-2019 19:48 Message #4743961
Food banks have multiplied significantly under the Tories. more and more people living in poverty , more homeless zero hour jobs,wtf are they putting right take you blinkers off, you seem to know nothing Hot or Not, typical far right winger.
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Hierophant  Male  East Anglia 6-Jul-2019 20:08 Message #4743965
So come on one of you lefties, explain to me what the agenda is. The Tories are killing people, starving the citizens of this country to death, leaving them to die in poverty and disease because they are privatising the NHS etc etc.
What is their aim? What is it in aid of?...
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HotOrWot  Male  Lancashire 6-Jul-2019 20:28 Message #4743966
Food banks have multiplied significantly under the Tories. more and more people living in poverty , more homeless zero hour jobs,wtf are they putting right take you blinkers off, you seem to know nothing Hot or Not, typical far right winger.

Right winger? That would amuse my friends. I would say I’m a realist rather than someone with a political agenda. When we have dieticians trolls popping up with lies, rubbish and propaganda I feel the truth should be known and they should be revealed for what they are regardless of politics.
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Good2BWith  Male  West Yorkshire 6-Jul-2019 20:42 Message #4743967
Hierophant 6-Jul-2019 20:08
So come on one of you lefties, explain to me what the agenda is. The Tories are killing people, starving the citizens of this country to death, leaving them to die in poverty and disease because they are privatising the NHS etc etc.
What is their aim? What is it in aid of?...
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I gave the answer to that question in one of my postings above.
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mancers  Male  Greater Manchester 6-Jul-2019 20:58 Message #4743968
Give us the truth then seeing you know it Hot or Not, I would like to know your tak on the state of the nation over the Cameron And May years, how they have saved us.
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Good2BWith  Male  West Yorkshire 6-Jul-2019 21:13 Message #4743970
I can understand the need for people to have lighter shades in some of these matters of great import.
What I can't understand is the constant stream of puerile comments and personal remarks made against those who hold and express views contrary to the vocal majority.
# Is it fear of finding out that long-held opinions are outdated or were always mistaken?
# Is it a left-over behaviour from school days when sniggering and giggling in class were indicators of those with little talent and even less ambition?
# Is it a re-enactment of Aesop's tale of the Ants and the Grasshopper when the cold realization of the consequences of a wasted youth and rejection of education come home to roost?

Such a result leads to the meaningless strutting, bullying behaviour and resort to petty name-calling that then appears as a substitute for knowledge, analysis and synthesis in this Forum.

Those I do have sympathy for are the members who would like to express their opinions but are put-off by the firestorm of abuse and belittling which will hit them if they stray from the line set out by the jack-booted Cabal who think they own this Forum.
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Nigel_In_Devon  Male  Devon 6-Jul-2019 21:48 Message #4743972
G2bw..."if they stray from the line set out by the jack-booted Cabal who think they own this Forum."

What? Those like yourself, WTF and Michaelt?
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Michaelt  Male  Devon 6-Jul-2019 22:01 Message #4743973
NigelInDevon, Like it or not, we are nation of free speech.
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HotOrWot  Male  Lancashire 6-Jul-2019 22:09 Message #4743974
G2bw..."if they stray from the line set out by the jack-booted Cabal who think they own this Forum."

What? Those like yourself, WTF and Michaelt?


The question we are all asking.

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