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Should dogs be kept on leads?

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A_man_called_CHIOG  Male  South East London 8-May-2019 07:32 Message #4739749
Another very young child living close to be was savaged by a dog at the weekend following a similar incident, different dog, on Friday. One of the dogs is to be put down.
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BunnyGirl  Female  Buckinghamshire 8-May-2019 10:18 Message #4739765
Yes dogs should be put on a lead unless you are in an open space where they csn run around without
harming anyine.

Animals are like children treat them right and they will treat you with respect. All living things have
feelings so be kind to animals and children. You will see a difference.
Female
BunnyGirl  Female  Buckinghamshire 8-May-2019 10:19 Message #4739766
Oops should be can and anyone ha ha
Female
wonderoushen  Female  Gwynedd 8-May-2019 11:08 Message #4739772
I think it depends on the dog, dogs are individuals as much as humans, children also need to be taught how to approach dogs, they're not furry toys, a few childen have asked if they can ride Monty or Dogglet, Dogglet was scared of children his instinct was to run away from them. Sometimes with the best will in the world a dog will escape, in some dogs the prey drive is very strong and prey does include children, just as it includes the young of other species, then you have a big problem. Some dogs will want to play and the children don't know how to play with a dog and things go horribly wrong, I feel for all involved. But what I feel for dog owners who have the wrong breed, those who puppy farm, those who don't train their dogs, or train them to be attack dogs are unprintable.
Male
Hierophant  Male  East Anglia 8-May-2019 13:17 Message #4739779
I think many people need to remember dogs are actually animals, not tiny human beings.
A dog will do disgusting animal type things given half a chance - it will roll in poo, it will eat poo and lick up it's own puke even if you have named it trixie and put a bow on it's collar.

A serious point, dogs should be kept on a lead around livestock...
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mancers  Male  Greater Manchester 8-May-2019 13:42 Message #4739782
Some humans should be kept on leads.
Male
Templar2013  Male  South East London 8-May-2019 14:04 Message #4739784
I'm a animal lover. dogs in particular and I have had many dogs as pets, occasionally as a working dog and with my ex partner we did dog sitting and dog walking. Every dog should be used to walking with a lead and in my opinion get used to a muzzle too. Dogs will soon get used to anything but sadly we do get owners who care more about how they look than the safety of their animal so insist on neither.

Most dogs will be ok running around the countryside as long as there is no livestock which is great if you live in a remote area.

For the rest of us I believe every dog in a public area should be on a lead or if in the countryside with a muzzle.

We are not being kind to our animals if we allow them to run wild possibly attacking livestock. Running into traffic and being knocked down. Getting into fights with other dogs. Biting an innocent person and having to be put down.
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terry  Male  West Yorkshire 8-May-2019 15:30 Message #4739798
Should dogs be kept on leads?
I'm with most of the comments given on here, definately yes, and preferably muzzled also, especially when around livestock or children. Even in the home dogs have been known to attack children, so either the children or the animal should always be supervised when the two are in close proximity.
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Gilpin  Female  Middlesex 8-May-2019 16:50 Message #4739805
Depends on the dog. And the owner. But generally I think they should be on a lead. Unless it's in an open space where you can see for miles. There are leads that expand and the dog can wander as it likes.
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JustLyn  Female  Cheshire 8-May-2019 17:20 Message #4739810
mancers,

My thoughts exactly.
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JustLyn  Female  Cheshire 8-May-2019 17:34 Message #4739814
I think, yet again, people (humans) have a tendency to be herd thinkers. They / we are not always great at balancing facts and weigh the good v the bad.

I am only pasting the next link as a lead point to something I came across a few years ago so it's a starting point for consideration.

Three children killed by their parents at the rate of 3 a month!
https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/three-children-killed-parents-every-7871479

Then...
https://getleashedmag.com/2017/01/14/10-amazing-dogs-who-risked-their-lives-to-save-their-owners

I haven't studied the detail, but added to that, how many humans kill their dogs and are dogs that bite been abused themselves?

Rather arrogantly, humans are animals but just consider themselves top in the pecking order.

Some dogs need to be on a lead and be muzzled to protect themselves from the public.

My ex and I once had a pup and the parents of a toddler allowed their child to toddle up and touch the pup. The pup being a baby itself was teething and there was blood on the hand of the child, but the child wasn't crying and no break in the skin. You should have seen the stupid parents, telling us our pup should be "put down". The poor thing wasn't even more than 4 months old.
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wonderoushen  Female  Gwynedd 8-May-2019 18:51 Message #4739821
Most people would think here is the middle of nowhere, but theres plenty of livestock around and farmers will shoot a loose dog. But even if other animals are fenced off they're not safe from idiots, like the bloke I heard about from a neighbour last week, theres a horse in the field over the back of us, she's often friendly, but is in fenced off field. This bloke wanted the horse to come to him and she wouldn't, so he lifted one of his dogs into the field to go and round up the horse, when my neighbour shouted at him to get his dog out of the field, because the first dog wouldn't come back the bloke was going to put his second dog in the field to fetch the first. We had quite a few dog attacks on animals this easter, people with Enid Blyton ideas of the countryside think the animals are playing together, running around, they're not the dogs are trying to kill the sheep or cows. Every now and again a farm animal or horse kicks a dog and injures or kills it, then it all the farmers fault for having a "dangerous animal".
Male
HotOrWot  Male  Lancashire 8-May-2019 19:02 Message #4739825
Some humans should be kept on leads

That doesn't help the debate much. Any specific humans in mind?
Female
JustLyn  Female  Cheshire 8-May-2019 19:25 Message #4739828
I was once bitten by a goat but you don't see them on leads. Interestingly, on The One Show, it appears Cashmere Goats run free in the town of Llangollen.

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HotOrWot  Male  Lancashire 8-May-2019 19:32 Message #4739830
Well if humans and goats are ok off leads then maybe it’s sensible to forget that dogs regularly savage animals and children and just let them run around the streets.
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RAACH84  Female  Buckinghamshire 8-May-2019 19:35 Message #4739831
allowed their child to toddle up and touch the pup. The pup being a baby itself was teething and there was blood on the hand of the child, but the child wasn't crying and no break in the skin. You should have seen the stupid parents, telling us our pup should be "put down".

Surely any responsible dog owner would not allow it to bite a toddler.
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JustLyn  Female  Cheshire 8-May-2019 20:55 Message #4739836
RAACH,

That's the exact point. The pup didn't bite at all, the pup was teething and the blood was from its own gums.

Any responsible parent would control a child from going up to any strange animal.
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JustLyn  Female  Cheshire 8-May-2019 21:06 Message #4739838
I didn't know a dog could bite with no break in the skin and no tears from the child. A dog bite is pretty painful, same as the child that bit my son on the head when he was a new baby and just a couple of days old.
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HotOrWot  Male  Lancashire 8-May-2019 23:13 Message #4739847
So dogs and Corbyn can do no wrong. You make me laugh.
Male
terry  Male  West Yorkshire 9-May-2019 04:41 Message #4739851
I'm a bit of a thick sod, but how did Corbyn end up in this discussion about dogs and leads? plus your comment is so far out of context, no where do I see anyone on here saying 'dogs can do no wrong'...totally inappropriate comment that simply points to the truth some people haven't left the primary school yard.
Male
tsunamiwarrior  Male  Hertfordshire 9-May-2019 07:38 Message #4739854
A strange turn indeed. I’m surprised no-one has mentioned Cashmere goats on leads or muzzles on small boys.
HotOrWot and JustLyn must stay in after school for detention.
Female
JustLyn  Female  Cheshire 9-May-2019 08:16 Message #4739858
tsunamiwarrior,

I am easily distracted and think laterally, sometimes a hindrance and sometimes very useful. As I was writing a response, the goats were on TV and the townspeople being interviewed, most appreciated them and a few were inconvenienced by their unruly appetites and their gardens!

Then I looked on Facebook, and lo and behold, someone has posted an unleashed black labrador on a beach who came home with two friends, one being a goat who had befriended the two dogs.

I don't mind a bit of detention :-)

I should rename myself Contrary Mary because I like to give an alternative perspective on things but it doesn't mean I always disagree.

My daughter took on two rescue border collies when she can barely look after herself so I guess I'm granny to two lovely bitches I'd rather not have, both of which seem to understand a lot of English. Because they are her "children" they are truly family now and we have trained them, if off their leads only in safe areas, to sit if a cyclist or runner goes by, though cyclists are not always so considerate with their speed.

HotorWot,
I suppose other animals than humans can do no wrong because if they do, it's sadly often the consequence of human bad behaviour.
Male
HonestBob  Male  the Central region 9-May-2019 10:10 Message #4739861
I think if it's safe to let a dog off the lead, and it's a well enough trained dog, I don't see a problem. If it's not near a road, not near live stock, it's friendly with people and doesn't bother other dogs...

My dog is never off his lead, he is a very friendly dog bit he does terrify people. Having him coming at you if you don't know him would cause distress in some people. He is friendly with most dogs, but some he has a growl and a flash of his teeth.

What annoys me is when other people's dogs come running from miles away, run right up to his face and then my dog gets a fright, and growls then a scuffle happens with the other dog owner nowhere to be seen. My dog has been attacked so many times now, he is usually on the defensive with strange dogs that run up to him.

Also, with the owner a good bit in front of their dog, and it starts crapping all over the place... They don't see it, and if they did... are they going back to pick it up? No! I certainly don't think so.
Female
JustLyn  Female  Cheshire 9-May-2019 10:22 Message #4739863
I'm always picking up the crap from other dogs but I know what you mean.

I don't think it can ever be perfect in places dogs are off leads, or even on them.

Perhaps the answer is to bring back dog licenses with certain obligations and responsibility?
I don't mean the token gesture of the past.

I've seen a few really sad dogs in what appears to be very oppressive behaviour by the owner who clearly is "training" a dog to be unsociable and seem to get something out of needing people to be afraid of their dog. It's usually a fighting dog kind of breed.

My daughter's dogs have both attended dog socialising classes, agility training etc. The older one is known for attracting nervous dogs and looks after them. Somehow those dogs go to her, yet out on her walks she is nonchalant and ignores people who want to stroke her.
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OnlineMSE  Male  Essex 9-May-2019 13:37 Message #4739872
Yes, all dogs should be on a lead when outside. I've lost count of the number of times when I've been out countryside walking, when someone's dog comes tearing at you, with the owner some way away in the distance and therefore has no control of their mutt.
Most times it'll just make it's way past with no issue but I've had others that don't and you just don't know how it will respond especially if it's a large dog like an alsation, rottweiler etc or a powerful smaller one like a staffie.
Sometimes you'll get the owner calling it back but usually, once they eventually catch up it'll be "oh don't worry he's friendly/won't bite, haha".
Yes, hilarious !
Personally that's why I never go out on walks now without a trekking pole.

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