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MSM and WSW

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eurostar  Female  Merseyside
1-Oct-2018 18:25 Message #4726250
Do you know what they stand for? I.ll tell you,
Men who sleep with men

Women who sleep with women

I don't understand the new name, can you explain it to me?
For years the LGBT people have fought hard to be recognised and accepted legally and morally for who they are, now health officials are using these.instead of or as well as gay,bi,

For years I,ve read about people not wanting to be labelled, but proud to be gay, is this not taking away their sexual identity?
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tumbled  Male  Gloucestershire
1-Oct-2018 18:38 Message #4726253
I thought MSM stood for Methylsulfonylmethane. ( ok, I just googled it..)

and I thought WSW was the direction West south West.

I will have to be careful the next time I ask for MSM..

People will come up with all sorts. It is difficult to know which are offensive or not.

I can be one of the least PC people on the planet. I have often used a lot of the comedy descriptions for being gay, always have and always will. For instance, Jim Royle saying about Elton John, a few years before he set up with his bloke, 'he may have been married, but he still drops anchor in poo bay'. I don't mind what anyone else says, I found that funny, and so did Caroline Aherne and co, and that is good enough for me.
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Hierophant  Male  East Anglia
1-Oct-2018 18:45 Message #4726257
I thought one was Main Stream Media.
Probably someone got offended by something so "officials" decided another name was needed.
A label is a label...
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wonderoushen  Female  Gwynedd
1-Oct-2018 18:49 Message #4726258
Sounds like a bunch of straight people have got together for a meeting and havn't got anything better to do than come up with daft accronyms.
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Timmee  Male  Hampshire
1-Oct-2018 18:50 Message #4726259
I thought MSM stood for Mainstream Media.

I think the idea behind all this new gender/identity speak is that previously un-PC folk should be FORCED to adopt the new 'WOKE' prescribed terms so that we learn habits of compliance and group-think.
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wonderoushen  Female  Gwynedd
1-Oct-2018 18:53 Message #4726260
I'm presuming that WOKE is another accronym? What does it mean? It sound smore like a way of making everyone but an in few sound un PC.
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TheSarcasticOne  Male  Essex
1-Oct-2018 22:22 Message #4726272
LOL . . . . BTW

I hate these short hand versions and other acronyms.

Working in a place where people "try" to use them can get confusing.

Worst is when they think they are using one and they are not as it means something different to what it is normally used for.

Or, and this happened today. Using the same short hand for several different things. A main group it has one meaning, then in several sub groups it means something different to each one.

Just say things in plain English, so it 3/10's second longer, but you won't be explaining what you really meant for the next hour.
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barney  Male  Surrey
2-Oct-2018 17:07 Message #4726312
No point in asking me. I thought LBGT was a sandwich.
Female
wonderoushen  Female  Gwynedd
2-Oct-2018 18:34 Message #4726313
Lettuce, bacon and tomato, but what did you think the G stood for?
Male
TheSarcasticOne  Male  Essex
2-Oct-2018 19:21 Message #4726316
Gerkin?
Female
gentlepurr  Female  Staffordshire
2-Oct-2018 21:51 Message #4726327
Whats in a name? I always say you can call me whatever you like, - as long as its not late for my dinner...
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HonestBob  Male  the Central region
2-Oct-2018 22:24 Message #4726328
"I'm presuming that WOKE is another accronym? "

I think it's just basically a term for some one who is anti white male.

Not 100% sure though, just what I have seen it associated with recently.
Male
Timmee  Male  Hampshire
3-Oct-2018 11:13 Message #4726347
"I thought LBGT was a sandwich."

An 'LBGT Sandwich' sounds rather risqué.


And for W.Hen: 'Woke'

Woke is a political term of African American origin that refers to a perceived awareness of issues concerning social justice and racial justice. It is derived from the African American Vernacular English expression "stay woke", whose grammatical aspect refers to a continuing awareness of these issues. [Wikipedia]
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HotOrWot  Male  Lancashire
10-Sep-2020 07:51 Message #4791901
The word 'woke' is being used a lot at the moment.

Male
Hierophant  Male  East Anglia
10-Sep-2020 08:05 Message #4791904
The latest is women/woman written as womxn.
I have no idea what it means or how you pronounce it but it's supposed to be inclusive.

In my day if a bloke wanted to wear a dress and call himself Brenda he was labelled a transvestite or crossdresser, women who wanted to wear men's clothes seemed to get away without being labelled.
Now we even have sanitary pads aimed at "people" who menstruate, yep not females, but "people" - apparently anybody can menstruate according to the woke brigade and it's wrong to discriminate them.

It seems women are being erased, feminism has turned on it's own kind and the word woman is frowned upon - all you normal women need to stand up and fight this pathetic attack on your existence before it's too late....
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persona_non_grata  Male  North London
10-Sep-2020 08:38 Message #4791905
I think most labels and acronyms are a waste of time and are often divisive.

I am surprised that the terms Mr and Mrs are still used.

On the original post I agree with Eurostar's observations. Times do change but we don't need a new label for everything.

Times do change because I have now been to three gay weddings. Two were between men and one between women. I never thought it would ever become so acceptable but I'm glad it has and everyone can be their natural selves.
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terry  Male  West Yorkshire
10-Sep-2020 08:57 Message #4791906
So, bearing in mind this thread started in 2018, I wonder, has it affected or changed anyone's life in any way? We often comment about such things - woke for example, (though I have to admit to not knowing what that stands for) but it'd be interesting to know if they make a difference to us? in my case not at all that I'm aware of. And no, I'm not saying such things shouldn't be talked about or commented upon.
Male
persona_non_grata  Male  North London
10-Sep-2020 09:14 Message #4791909
I don't think woke stands for anything just a made up word reflecting having woken up to certain facts .. I think.

Things haven't affected me either terry but maybe it's only noticeable if you are one of the minorities being labelled or if you are very sensitive to such things.
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tumbled  Male  Gloucestershire
10-Sep-2020 09:37 Message #4791913
I think originally Woke stood for.....Wombles Ongoing Ketchup Enquiry......but since that has all died down recently, it's now been hijacked for something else....

Similar with BLM.......That was originally......Burnt Lemonade Market.......but there isn't much call for that anymore....so they sold off the letters...
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CircusMaximus  Male  North Yorkshire
10-Sep-2020 10:24 Message #4791919
png posted. I am surprised that the terms Mr and Mrs are still used.

So am I. It seems illogical. Either men and women have their marital status shown or neither have their marital status shown. These days it would make more sense to do away with it but possibly still have something which shows gender as that might be important in some instances.
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Hierophant  Male  East Anglia
10-Sep-2020 10:28 Message #4791923
You lost me how do Mr and Mrs not show a person's marital status?...
Male
persona_non_grata  Male  North London
10-Sep-2020 10:36 Message #4791926
You know Mrs is married or has been married but Mr gives nothing away.
Female
wonderoushen  Female  Gwynedd
10-Sep-2020 10:42 Message #4791929
I wondered the same Terry

I think we should be Master or Miss, until the age of 18, then become Mr or Mrs as a coming of age thing. Why should a woman have to declare her marital status through the use of a title? In fact why not do away with titles, do we really need them and what purpose do they serve?
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Hierophant  Male  East Anglia
10-Sep-2020 10:44 Message #4791930
Lol I thought women use the term Miss?
Master used to be used for young single men didn't it? Ahh but I suppose Master means being in charge, owning something or someone.
No wonder the woke brigade are so uptight...
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Hierophant  Male  East Anglia
10-Sep-2020 10:50 Message #4791934
So WH you agree with terry and ask does all this stuff matter and has it affected anybody in any way, then go on to moan about titles and why women have to declare their marital status?

"I think we should be Master or Miss, until the age of 18, then become Mr or Mrs as a coming of age thing."

That's what happens isn't it?
All nice and simple....

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