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I was lead to believe that this 'ere God is all loving and that includes all Gods creatures. So if that is so what justification is there to exterminate certain animals... and that includes dogs.
As an athiest I cannot see the justification that we should abuse our power over animals such as dogs just because the media percieves them to be dangerous in their mass hysteria.
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Very, very interesting point Brisinger. I do admire your bravery!
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How about rabid dogs? Or dogs that have attacked children and adults? Ferral dogs that hunt in packs?
Generally, dogs can be trained either way according to their human owners.
We are responsible for their care, aren't we?
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We are so ready to exert our power and cause hysteria that we seem to forget how important dogs are to our culture. Not only are they pets but some are working dogs. Not to mention support dogs for people such as the blind and seizure alert dogs for people living with epilepsy amongst many others.
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Well flossie it was a fhread that was just waiting to happen. It was just asking for it :-D
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What justifcation can there be in indiscriminately destroying a breed just because the media hypes up an attack ?
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Dogs bred indiscriminately, just for the Money and Status, and then Sold on , without adequate care and training when it gets a home ,,, is cruel to begin with .. and with no care for the Dog at all, and its future , and maybe just bred to fight .. or trained to be vicious or it becomes so nasty and unsocialized with lack of care .. no God lover is to blame for this situation at all IMHO
Many Dog Professionals ... end up saying if theyre not trained and with behavioural problems so bad they have to be destroyed and kinder for the poor dog .. that cannot and is not capable of ever being socialised into Society[ in someones home as a Pet ]
Its heartbreaking .. truely it is ... and from that perspective shouldnt be allowed ..
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They are still a life whether you like it or not and to suggest the extermination of a species is, in my opinion,absurde.
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yes, it would be denying their rights as some of God's creatures. A totally unchristian act finding innocents guilty for committing no crime except the crime of being born. It would be totally abhorrent and lacking in any compassion in my opinion.
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Brisinger i thinking you may be missing the point here .. if theyre savage and beyond retraining they have to be put down [ to sleep ] you cant dream of rehoming a viscious dog ,its to risky and insane to me
Some dogs unwanted have to be put down too as to the cost of keeping them in Dog Sanctuaries ,that alot of these Sancturies have closed anyway now ,due to lack of finance and this desperate financial climate we are in ... folks have give up their dogs and pets as they cant afford them ...
So my point is why go on breeding them daily across the uk in the first place if society is finding them superfluous to requirement/s .. its cruel ... because no one wants them anyway ..
As Sancturies Know only too well folks buy them for Christmas and abandon them in the New Year
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So do you suggest we put down owners who chop dogs legs off with a machete purely because it won't sit? After all it only seems fair...
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Brisinger sorry you got me lost here , not sure what you mean , or are referring to ?
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I really don't see the point in exterminating a species just because there may be one rogue element. I've seen some real horror stories in my time that you can't begin to imagine.
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But God loving people cannot be blamed for irresponsible Dog Breeding and Care of the Dogs...
Indiscrimenate breeding is to blame where the Dogs now become a Commodity , especially with Puppy Farms
I was truely Shocked by my findings and folks selling them from the Back of Pubs all different Breeds, some had been ferried across for sale from Ireland at just a few weeks old , possibly taken from their Mum far too young
Some with 6 different Moblile Numbers[ the same Man though ]witnh 6 differnt ads in the local Ad paper at the same address ,selling an assortment of different breed Pups [ doesnt that make you suspicious ]
Yes this is what i found everywhere out there in the UK ,when i was looking for my young Pup [ now 15 months old ]
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PS Taking a young puppy from its Mum too young will lead to massive behavioural problems , very hard to rectify without much trauma ,as it will have no learnt social skills from its Mother and may well, have aggressive issues , that in a large breed Dog .. like a Staffie[ although it applies across the board to any Pup breed treated this way .. well it will all lead to massive hard to control problems especially for a Novice owner
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PPS My above last Post comments , is often the case of the trauma caused by Puppy Farms breeding of Commodity Dogs ,with no real hope of a good quality life[ if lucky yes with an owner with loads of patience ] when taken from Mum too early and often from poorly Mums too, as Puppy Farm Mothers are quite run down bodily ] as there is no real care often in Puppy Farm Dogs Mothers and their Kinder
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Dpk...
"But God loving people cannot be blamed for irresponsible Dog Breeding and Care of the Dogs"
No, of course they can't, there'll be people of all sorts of religions to blame, some of whomever may claim to be God loving. Think of all the wars that have been fought in the name of religion, irresponsible dog breeding is nothing in comparison.
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It's a pity we can't destroy feral violent humans!
Regards
John
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Hello Johnlock... i think they have long been around , its sad they still affect us , and their poor dogs that they have as fashion accessories too..often not cared for and bred just to be vicious
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"But God loving people cannot be blamed for irresponsible Dog Breeding and Care of the Dogs"
maybe that was really "dog loving", nige
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A true dog lover would not want it destroyed purely on the base that it is a particular breed.
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Is this anthropomorphic empathy-fest extended to cats too? How about rats? Lice? Capnocytophaga canimorsus?
For all our higher "civilised" pretensions, us people types are part of the animal kingdom too, and given the right set or circumstances i guarantee that you yourself would kill a dog or a horse of another person. Nature is amoral.
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Nature may be amoral but we have no excuse!
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starlight,
whilst I find your views on animals from Ireland and Wales puppy farms good (all animal lovers should hate those places) both those countries are putting in measures to stop it.
However, correct me if I am wrong, didn't we decide that your youngest dog is from one of these places ?
ohh btw... staffies are small dogs... you go for little or toy dogs ...
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The way you talk, Brisinger, it's as if people's beliefs weren't so fickle they disregarded them whenever it suits them. If this were truly a Christian nation then the rich would have given away their stuff to the poor a long time ago. Oops, the rich include the [many] Christian Churches. If people can't take care of each other to start with, how realistic is it to expect them to care for any animal?
In China, dog is yummy, which is great because it allows for many a poor person to eat some protein every now and then.
Incidentally, why only "certain animals" and what's the criteria for choosing them?
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