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Reviewing the Thread I started yesterday, about "tear-jerking songs", I got to thinking (Yeah! I know that's dangerous!) and came to the conclusion that the responses could be categorised two different ways.
I presumed that many of the respondents were nominating songs that triggered memories, be they happy or sad, and some even stated as much in their response(s). This is not unusual as music does seem to have this power to reach deep into our minds at many levels.
The responses that interested me in my later reviews, and there weren't many of them, were from people who could 'empathise' (for want of a better word) with a song -those who could hear a song and respond to it's message and/or ambience and not rely on triggered memories to produce the 'tear-jerk' reaction.
I wish I'd have thought of that when I first Posted the Thread as then I could have asked for more specific replies.
So, if you contributed to the Thread, or just read it in passing, would you care to elaborate now?
Or just submit any relevant thoughts you may have on teh subject.
Thanks
Jason.
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My contribution was more an empathy contribution, and that was how i read your original post Jason.
I have many many songs that evoke emotions within myself because they bring back personal memories, the song i quoted on your other thread, was simply a song, that when i first heard it, i felt real sympathy for the poor girl who was being sung about, and could imagine just how i would have felt in the same situation.
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white wine in the sun by Tim Minchin is the song that does this for me... I love the lyrics/message of love contained within it and nearly always well up when i hear it
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my reply was cos I remembered them,and,have them in my collection,as for tear jerkers,I have got over that now,which relate to any sad times in my life,now and then,I play music I know will MAKE ME CRY,only cos I need a good cry now and then,if not had one for a while,with all these pent up loving needs in me going to waste,see what I mean,they say it does you good.
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Thats exactly the point i beleive Jason was making, and the reason for starting this thread. (Or thats how ive read both of them. )
Im sure everybody has at least one song that they associate with some personal experience, that causes them to feel sad, but not everybody is able to feel the pain of somebody else, when they themselves are not involved.
He didnt necessarily mean songs that reminded you of personal pain and sad circumstances, but rather a song that could illustrate somebody elses pain that had nothing to do with us personally, but that we could still empathise with and understand, even if we hadnt personally experienced it.
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Gosh Jason that's interesting!
My first contributions were family orientated, beginning, as afar as I can recall, with the first ever that made me cry. C'mon! You must remember the very young Neil Reid singing that song with tears in his eyes?
Who didn't want to scoop him up in their arms?
St Winnifred's Choir's, 'Grandad' would make me cry too. (Even though a happy song), I wanted to join in and kiss Clive Dunn!
I first consciously thought for family related songs, as I believe the pain of the loss of a loved one would best resonate with the thread title, and a theme all would naturally emphathise with.
Then I cheated :( Looked up 40 biggest tearjerkers...and made my selections. I was on a roll!
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Yes, lucyjordan was correct, on this Thread I am looking to see who has reacted to the ambience, or the words, of a song in an emotional manner - without their being any memory connections.
For instance, the song that started it all off for me, was "Teddy Bear" - a story about a load of truckers who responded to a young crippled boy's desire to ride in a truck when they found out that the little boy's father, who had been a trucker, had died recently and wouldn't be able to give him any more trips in his truck.
When I heard the boy's tale I just wanted to reach out to him (even though he was an imaginary figure) - just like the trucker's did - and then I imagined the absolute joy on the boy's face when a load of trucker's turned up to fulfil his wish - something that could very well happen in real life.
Nothing in that story has any relevance to any part of my life, so there were no dormant memories to trigger - hearing people's sad tales can sometimes move me, as can hearing 'beautiful things' like the truckers' generosity - and that's what I am asking, who else has this 'empathy' (for want of a better word - again!).
Jason.
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Jason, the song that I put up on your other thread had the type of association for me that you describe as ‘empathy’. Obviously (for those who know the song or who listened to it from the link) it did not trigger personal memories for me – I know I’m old but……!!! The message in the song is so powerful and as relevant to events today as it was to the event which inspired it in the first place.
There have been songs in my life that were sad for me because they reminded me of someone or some time in my life but I guess that sadness has worn off, as it were, over the years, and they no longer trigger that response for me.
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Hi Jason Yes my choice of David Gates song "Everything I own" was defiantly one of the empathy type. Like many when I first heard it I though it a romantic, lost love, song but when I learned of its real format I , having recently lost my own father, was overwhelmed and the sense of empathy was immense and heartbreaking and I have never forgotten it. I'm still a fan of Bread, a great band in their day, but rarely play that song.
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This song has no direct connection to me but it conjures up all sorts of emotions when i hear it.I find it so sad & if i just sit & listen,the eyes can become moist.There are others of course but this one is on a compilation of mine that i've been listening to quite a lot recently.
I suppose you have to be someone who is prepared to go where the writer wants to take you,be it a song or a scene in a film or a book.
I looked it up to get the lyrics & was surprised to see that it was written in 1934.
I imagine that it was heard a lot during WW11.
In fact that is one image that comes to me when i hear it,two people ,lovers,husband/wife,knowing they must part,but not wanting to & not knowing what's in the future.I suppose it's saying make the most of what you have,while you have it.
It's been recorded by many performers.I have versions of it by Rosemary Clooney & Doris Day & both know how to sing & use a lyric.
Words by Sam M. Lewis and Music by J. Fred Coots
For all we know we may never meet again
Before you go make this moment sweet again
We won't say "Good night" until the last minute
I'll hold out my hand and my heart will be in it
For all we know this may only be a dream
We come and go like a ripple on a stream
So love me tonight; tomorrow was made for some
Tomorrow may never come for all we know
instrumental interlude
So love me tonight; tomorrow was made for some
Tomorrow may never come for all we know
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