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Gilpin  Female  Middlesex
21-Mar-2020 20:11 Message #4773291
WH

Read my post of 11.00. You might find that it was an official in China, that intimated that the US could have planted the bug. If it's a virus originating in China, why is it not a Chinese virus?
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Greencare  Female  Berkshire
21-Mar-2020 22:40 Message #4773310
No surprise that the Chinese want to distance themselves from their virus in light of the deaths it has caused. I don’t think they would care who they try to blame.
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Kimjongun  Male  South Yorkshire
22-Mar-2020 00:01 Message #4773313
Greencare, what a terrible comment to make.

Your evidence is?
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HotOrWot  Male  Lancashire
22-Mar-2020 07:39 Message #4773324
You might find that it was an official in China, that intimated that the US could have planted the bug. If it's a virus originating in China, why is it not a Chinese virus?


No surprise that the Chinese want to distance themselves from their virus in light of the deaths it has caused. I don’t think they would care who they try to blame.

I’m sure many Chinese officials would like the blame for the virus to veer away from China but it’s the conspiracy theorists who point the fingers and the US is always the most popular target.
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wonderoushen  Female  Gwynedd
22-Mar-2020 10:18 Message #4773360
Gilpin I did read your post and thought it was the usual conspiracy theory nonsense, conspiracy theories are interesting and sometimes fun, but more often they're a way for the insignificant to feel important, I think cock up happens more often that we would like to think and as I said before sometimes sh1t just happens.

I often wonder when people complain about a "compensation culture", ambulance chasing legal firms, that there seem to be no such things as accidents anymore, someone always has to be at fault, that they cling to conspiracy theories. This is the same thing on a larger scale, the Americans could of planted the bug, the Chinese could of planted the bug, I'm surprised no ones blamed the Russians yet, or little green men from outer space, or little grey men from outer space.

I understand that looking for someone or a super-entity such as a country to blame is how some deal with fear and uncertainty, and believing you know something others don't is seductive, but is it really helpful, does it help us as individuals and as a society cope with what is a massive worldwide challenge and emergency? I think when confronted by a conspiracy theory we should step back and ask ourselves, why would someone do that, what do they hope to gain from it, what facts back this theory up, or do all the supposed facts come from a few nerds in basements? I've noticed that conspiracy theory "facts" are circular, they always lead back to the same conclusion they arn't open to challenge or question, they're as dogmatic as any fundamentalist religion. If a theory isn't open to question, being ammended as new information comes in, and/or being abandoned when found to be wrong, then its dogma not theory and I think dogma should be avoided, especially with things like this. People like to talk of others as having "medieval attitudes", like sharia law or something but this adherance to conspiracy theory and hyping it up is just as medieval.
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PrincessFruitBat  Female  Essex
22-Mar-2020 11:08 Message #4773375
Irrespective of who or what caused the virus, I can’t help wondering if the spread may have been better contained if the Chinese authorities had, instead of arresting Dr Li Wenliang back in December 2019, taken notice of his concerns and alerted the rest of the world.
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Gilpin  Female  Middlesex
22-Mar-2020 11:19 Message #4773377
WH

Conspiracy theories usually relate to actual events, or supposed events. The blame laying of different nations is not conspiracy. I was referring to the latter, the reason why Trump is calling it a Chinese virus (which it is anyway).

It is an exceptionally virulent bug, and we cannot effectively stop it, it could have been constructed or it could have escaped from a laboratory, or it could have evolved, since we don't know I wouldn't rule anything out. Though I can't imagine why on earth the Chinese would plant such a dangerous but in their own country.

The reason for having such a thing by any country, there's always a reason, to use, once perfected in germ warfare, should an occasion arise. To threaten, stall the enemy, to sell, to research and use against another virus, for medical purposes, who knows, personally I wouldn't make a judgement either way.
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BOYDEL  Male  Surrey
22-Mar-2020 11:37 Message #4773379
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wonderoushen  Female  Gwynedd
22-Mar-2020 18:24 Message #4773429
I agree PFB, its a stupid thing to have done.


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