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Take me to your leader.

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tsunamiwarrior  Male  Hertfordshire 31-May-2019 12:40 Message #4741026
You are really right fosy. Also someone who can talk intelligently on “life after Brexit”
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Good2BWith  Male  West Yorkshire 31-May-2019 13:03 Message #4741027
Calumnies come easy to you, tumbleweed 30-May-2019 08:31 and you are well aware that
I didn't once threatened me with the Police
Nor did I send you a
vile provocation
nor a provocation of any kind.

Do try to calm down and come to terms with the fact that you and your coterie have run this Forum into no more than an irrelevant site desperately frequented by a dwindling # of refugees from the ever-encroaching outside world.

You are a Has Been, old bean
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Good2BWith  Male  West Yorkshire 31-May-2019 13:16 Message #4741028
NigelInDevon 30-May-2019 14:58
1) GBTW "Homophobic hate speech reported"

Really? Have I missed something? I cant see any such thing in the thread.
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You're just insensitive to such matters.
Or
Possibly someone who very much regrets the introduction of laws limiting Hate Speech.
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2) Have you been taking something that induces hallucinations?
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Yet another person who uses comments about others' state of Mind as an insult.
It's par for the type of comment which infests this moribund Forum.
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Good2BWith  Male  West Yorkshire 31-May-2019 13:27 Message #4741029
RAACH84 30-May-2019 08:33
I think you imagined that Good2BWith. The only offensive messages I have seen on here have been from you and your pal and as others have said it is spoiling what was a friendly forum. Not cliquey but friendly.
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Then you're both highly selective and insensitive.
Do you never wonder why acquaintances distance themselves when you start uttering racist, homophobic and other "Hate" remarks?
(Alias) Tommy Robinson and his chums all think that they're correct and are a friendly set of people - that proves nothing at all. Neither does your claim.
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Good2BWith  Male  West Yorkshire 31-May-2019 13:40 Message #4741030
wonderoushen 31-May-2019 11:04
So do you have any evidence that she exceeded her role?
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Nice try.
Evidence? Evidence?
How dare you call for evidence to back-up anything that "they" assert?
Don't you understand that asking for verifiable evidence is tantamount to calling that person a Liar and due cause for personal attacks on your mental, but not physical, health, name-calling and general Naughty child behaviour?
Ad hom is standard issue for such people.
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HotOrWot  Male  Lancashire 31-May-2019 13:54 Message #4741033
RAACH84 30-May-2019 08:33
I think you imagined that Good2BWith. The only offensive messages I have seen on here have been from you and your pal and as others have said it is spoiling what was a friendly forum. Not cliquey but friendly.


You are right of course but a certain sanctimonious gentleman tries in vain and with pretence toappear superior.
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tumbleweed  Male  Gloucestershire 31-May-2019 13:54 Message #4741034
g2b, you're in good trolly form today...keep it up...I could do with a laugh...

Regarding the 'threatening me with the police' thing, your actual quote was

An interpretation of your posting is that it is offensive, probably against the Rules of this Forum, and most importantly may well land you being investigated by the Police.
Your route out of your self-constructed mire is clear.
It is to be hoped that you avail yourself of that course of action as a matter of urgency.


I took that as a threat...maybe you were 'having a laugh'...maybe you meant something completely different...who knows what goes on in your head...but I took it as a threat...
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HotOrWot  Male  Lancashire 31-May-2019 13:56 Message #4741035
So do you have any evidence that she exceeded her role? She's obviously used to weighing evidence to see if there's a case to answer and where such cases should be heard. Just because theres a case to answer dosen't imply guiilt or innocence.

I watched Rory Stewart on QT last night, I was very impressed, I think we could do with a few more like him in Westminster, but I still can't see him being able to deal with those who don't want to think outside their own narrow positions, I might be wrong and he does really well. The thing that surprised me was how well the audience responded to him, both remainers and leavers seemed willing to listen and respond positively.


Good post.
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barney  Male  Surrey 31-May-2019 13:57 Message #4741036
What would be the point of putting someone like Rory Stewart in charge, he is a remainer.

Do we really want another one running back and forwards to the EU for years trying to get another deal .
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persona_non_grata  Male  North London 31-May-2019 14:05 Message #4741038
If Brexit was the only thing that mattered - or even if it was the most important thing likely to happen - then the choice of a remainer or leaver (depending on your stance) would be of paramount importance, but there will still be national security, the health service, public transport, schools, employment, climate, the economy, housing etc etc (an endless list) which to many people will be far more important than Brexit.
If the country goes pear-shaped it won't make much difference whether we are in or out.

The leader should be the best person for the job.
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Gilpin  Female  Middlesex 31-May-2019 15:53 Message #4741042
The missing link here is who has the greater legislative power over these …. other matters, such as national security, the economy, etc. etc. Because we certainly won't, ultimately, if they choose to tell us differently.

If they take away a veto in any policy voting for instance, which they have the power to do. For example foreign policy has been suggested cannot be vetoed by EU members, if they decide to go to war, we cannot veto. This so far has been met with resistance, but they can make it difficult to go against their wishes and they are persistent.

It makes a lot of difference if we are in or out.
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Gilpin  Female  Middlesex 31-May-2019 16:21 Message #4741044
Barney

What would be the point of putting someone like Rory Stewart in charge, he is a remainer.

Do we really want another one running back and forwards to the EU for years trying to get another deal .
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Ahh … sneaking in another remainer to keep us in. I haven't seen QT, though I have it on tape to watch later. Can't say his name stands out. Leadership contenders are popping up out of the floorboards in the Tory party. 12 at the last count. I wonder if Anna Souberry is in there.
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tsunamiwarrior  Male  Hertfordshire 31-May-2019 16:49 Message #4741046
If Brexit was the only thing that mattered - or even if it was the most important thing likely to happen - then the choice of a remainer or leaver (depending on your stance) would be of paramount importance, but there will still be national security, the health service, public transport, schools, employment, climate, the economy, housing etc etc (an endless list) which to many people will be far more important than Brexit.
If the country goes pear-shaped it won't make much difference whether we are in or out.

The leader should be the best person for the job.


That is a good post.
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Good2BWith  Male  West Yorkshire 31-May-2019 17:13 Message #4741048
tumbleweed 31-May-2019 13:54
Regarding the 'threatening me with the police' thing, your actual quote was

An interpretation of your posting is that it is offensive, probably against the Rules of this Forum, and most importantly may well land you being investigated by the Police.
Your route out of your self-constructed mire is clear.
It is to be hoped that you avail yourself of that course of action as a matter of urgency.


I took that as a threat...maybe you were 'having a laugh'...maybe you meant something completely different...who knows what goes on in your head...but I took it as a threat...
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My message meant what it was meant to mean. It was advice.
Being the mean-spirited and vindictive person you are, you rejected a piece of advice that has no doubt been given you by any friends you've got left, and turned it on its head to support your well-out-of-date opinions.
It's YOU who have talked your isolated self into believing that it was a threat, rather than solid advice.

How you think that I could approach anyone in authority (Outside the Moderators/"Helpers") with a complaint concerning a pathetic, whining, anonymous person on a backwater of an On-line-Forum beggers belief.

On the matter of "laughs".
I don't laugh with or at people who hold views such as some of yours - they're beyond contempt.

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tumbleweed  Male  Gloucestershire 31-May-2019 17:17 Message #4741049
You're comedy gold...without realising it whatsoever g2b
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tsunamiwarrior  Male  Hertfordshire 31-May-2019 18:27 Message #4741055
You don’t need to look too hard on these threads to see who is obnoxious, insulting and unpleasant at every post and who is not.

I will mention no names and point no finger :)
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barney  Male  Surrey 31-May-2019 18:43 Message #4741057
" The leader should be the best person for the job ".

Normally I would agree but as has been shown nothing else is going to get sorted out until the Brexit problem is sorted.
We know the EU are not going to budge so why keep talking about a deal.
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wonderoushen  Female  Gwynedd 31-May-2019 18:48 Message #4741058
I think one of the things that stands out about Rory Stewart is that his primary focus is on what happens in the next few months and years, he is looking forward to a post Brexit country, but he wants to be honest with people about what that means. I see his diplomatic background coming very much to the fore inn his candidacy, he knows some people are going to be disapointed and nobody can have everything they want, his plan seems to be to find out why people voted as they did and acknowledging that its different for different people and in different areas, he seems to feel that by dealing with some of those reasons he can find a way through the mess. I don't know if he's right or not, his presumption is that everybody is reasonable and articulate and wants to unite as a country, I think there are plenty of people who are not reasonable, others who arn't able to say why they feel the way they do and come out with one or two words and expect you to understand their complete world view and get angry when you don't. I suspect there are also some who don't wish for the country to become less divided and I don't just mean the SNP and their ilk, but others who are less visable but more sinister in their motivations. I'm not aiming the above comments at either Leavers or Remainers, but to everyone on both or all sides. I still don't think he'll win though, he knows the difference between simple and simplistic, many don't and they come out with simple sounding solutions to difficult problems because they are confusing the two.
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Gilpin  Female  Middlesex 31-May-2019 21:02 Message #4741069
Rory Stewart. Just watched QT. What a shame he's a remainer! He does seem to talk sense, and is practical. Understands that repeating what May tried is not going to produce a different outcome. And is willing to include all parties, especially in relevance to the Brexit party, which means recognising the MEP election result, something they find hard to swallow, in negotiations.

As PM. Not sure. His gaff over China didn't serve him well. The new PM cannot be a remainer. The country will never unite.
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Good2BWith  Male  West Yorkshire 31-May-2019 22:43 Message #4741076
wonderoushen 31-May-2019 18:48
I think one of the things that stands out about Rory Stewart is that his primary focus is on what happens in the next few months and years ...
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That's a block-busting Curate's egg of an analysis, wonderoushen.
I've voted it up since whilst I can't agree with some of your points, many I do support.
Mr Stewart won't become Tory Leader/PM - at least this time. The emphasis is FAR to focussed on BrExit and not on the huge portfolio for which a PM is responsible. The party in the country favour the One-trick-poney which is Mr Johnson.
Whether even he can sort out the mess that is BrExit is doubtful. Even if he does, or seems to have done so, that will be his One-trick done.
He has already shown that his diplomatic skills are severely lacking after his brief spell as Foreign Secretary.
His crassness marked him out as a Graduate of the "Phil-the-Greek" school of diplomacy and respect.

Late extra - Mr Trump has arranged a special meeting with Mr B Johnson during the former's State visit to UK.
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Good2BWith  Male  West Yorkshire 31-May-2019 23:05 Message #4741079
Gilpin 31-May-2019 21:02
Rory Stewart. Just watched QT ...
His gaff over China didn't serve him well.
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Not having seen the programme, what was Mr Stewart's gaffe over China, please?
I can't find any reference to it in the MSN.

Widespread are the references to Mr Hunt's gaffe:
"Foreign secretary Jeremy Hunt mistakenly referred to his wife as Japanese during a visit to Beijing to discuss post-Brexit trade deals between the UK and China.
Mr Hunt's wife is actually Chinese.

Wasn't this was the chap who was in-charge of our NHS for some years?
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wonderoushen  Female  Gwynedd 1-Jun-2019 11:46 Message #4741092
I think Trump endorsing Boris could back fire, in the same way Obama saying we'd be at the back of the queue for a trade deal post brexit. I wouldn't want Trump on my side.
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Hierophant  Male  East Anglia 1-Jun-2019 11:49 Message #4741093
It has never done Nigel Farage any harm..
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Witheflow  Male  North Yorkshire 1-Jun-2019 12:03 Message #4741094
How will Trump endorsing Boris back fire? Tory leadership elections are in house. The populus have no say until General election day.
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Witheflow  Male  North Yorkshire 1-Jun-2019 12:05 Message #4741095
What has never done Nigel Farage any harm. Tax evasion? Bigotry? Playing on hate and division? Karma isn't instant.


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