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JustLyn  Female  Cheshire 8-Apr-2019 14:21 Message #4738238
Corbyn is a 70 year old agitator who has been living very comfortably on an MP's salary for over 30 years. He has never held a cabinet position and never demonstrated any desire to help the country previously, instead enjoying the freedom of being a highly paid backbencher, taking "trips" to mingle with plenty of undesirables on wages paid by the taxpayer."

Ageist too.

How many other MPs have lived on an MP salary for 30 years and do you hold that against them too?

Here is a less biased opinion from someone who does not support Corbyn.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/men/thinking-man/11846603/Five-good-things-about-Corbyn-even-if-youre-not-a-Labour-supporter.html
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Good2BWith  Male  West Yorkshire 8-Apr-2019 14:42 Message #4738239
It would seem that the

Moderators and
Helpers: Chris2mates , LLstill , PrincessFruitBat

have allowed this thread to descend from its original title and purpose to an undifferentiated criticizm and gross vilification of Mr Corbyn.
Many have contributed low-level gossip or mere mud-slinging.
Others have flooded the column with a tide of pro-Hard-Right-Zionist propaganda.

All of this indicates a number of things:
1.0 That the majority of those contributing to this Thread unconditionally support the (alleged) persons involved in their actions of using the image of a prominent, democratically elected, politician, as a firearms target on one of H M's Military firing ranges.
2.0 That the level of accusations (highly subjective and un-evidenced) against the chosen target (Mr Corbyn) of being a traitor, a 5th columnist, a saboteur of his own country etc, has reached that of a baying for blood, Lynch mob
3.0 The recent intervention of one contributor has misused this discussion column and turned it into a platform for his monologue painting Mr Corbyn as guilty, in his own invented Diplock court, of transgressions beyond counting or imagination.
His support for bloody-handed terrorist acts, massacres and assassination squads casts a very dark shadow over this hijacked Thread.

On the grounds that this thread:
4.0 Is Completely Off Topic
5.0 Has been turned into a column which could be interpreted as supporting and justifying the use of illegal and extreme violence against a high profile citizen of UK.

I strongly suggest that this Thread be Locked and Archived
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Hierophant  Male  East Anglia 8-Apr-2019 14:47 Message #4738240
"How many other MPs have lived on an MP salary for 30 years and do you hold that against them too?"

If they have also done very little of a constructive nature in that time, then yes...
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Hierophant  Male  East Anglia 8-Apr-2019 14:51 Message #4738241
Stating his age isn't ageist...
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tsunamiwarrior  Male  Hertfordshire 8-Apr-2019 15:02 Message #4738242
Oh dear, oh dear is Mr G2BW a little perturbed because he is not getting away with his usual rants which very often have little to do with the original subject?
Does he have a bee in his bonnet because he has nobody agreeing with him. Possibly feeling sidelined?

That is all ok and understandable but you certainly shouldn’t be moaning. You will struggle to find much support for Corbyn on any forum which is not a far left publication. Communist News?

Nobody has ever complained about the subject meandering and changing in a thread. That is quite the norm and usually a good thing.
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tsunamiwarrior  Male  Hertfordshire 8-Apr-2019 15:06 Message #4738243
How pompous and disingenuous of you to “strongly suggest” a thread is shut down just because it publicises genuine news reports on Corbyn.
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tsunamiwarrior  Male  Hertfordshire 8-Apr-2019 15:12 Message #4738244
“Stating his age isn't ageist...”. Of course it isn’t but when posters are rattled and have no real arguments to defend their Messiah they will throw accusations of ageist, misogynist and even attention to silence those who are too vocal for them. Communists down believe in free speech.
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tumbleweed  Male  Gloucestershire 8-Apr-2019 15:40 Message #4738246
It doesn't surprise me at all with G2B...It's what he does.

He deliberately trolls ( he is one of the main ones that people have been accusing of trolling ), and then if people fight back, he threatens things.

He threatened me with the police a few weeks ago. After he left the 'sex icon' message in a post telling me to get off my arse, I replied something like 'I'm going to stay on my arse if you are calling me a sex icon', and he then threatened me with the police.

I haven't heard from the police yet, so maybe he was just trolling again. I'm sure the police would laugh his case to oblivion, and hopefully charge him with wasting police time.
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Cautious1954  Female  Berkshire 8-Apr-2019 15:55 Message #4738247
I’ve noticed that whenever Corbyn has been cornered into condemning any terrorists he always adds something about western atrocities to the same sentence. Not an honest man by any means.
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wonderoushen  Female  Gwynedd 8-Apr-2019 18:45 Message #4738249
I guess the thing to be remembered is no matter what you personally think of Corbyn he has been democratically elected in his constituency for 30 years, so as far as they're concerned he must be doing something right, I can only imagine that he must be a very good constituency MP. Personally I think he's a disaster as Labour leader, he's thoroughly divisive and has alienated a lot of people within his own party, let alone those outside it, the Jewish Labour movement or whatever they're called have voted no confidence in him over anti-semitism.
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JustLyn  Female  Cheshire 8-Apr-2019 20:11 Message #4738252
WH,

Do you think he personally has been divisive or just that his politics, that had gained huge popularity in new voters, had not appealed to those comfortable under Blair who had drifted somewhat centre and even right?

Don't you think it's weird that he could be trusted and sincere in his own constituency yet paradoxically be divisive and have alienated all the others?

There could be other factors afoot, rather than it being personal. I think thousands live in fear of being forced to be fairer to society and too many single children not wanting to share their toys.

Folks seem to have things out of proportion, throwing the baby out with the bathwater, when it comes to needing fairer politics.
Don't you think it odd, or even expected that all the mud slinging is raked up again and again when a GE is on the cards, covering up all the rotten stuff that has been going on the past 8-9 years of Tory leadership?
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JustLyn  Female  Cheshire 8-Apr-2019 20:15 Message #4738253
"Corbyn thinks Jews are just ordinary people like the rest of us, not God's chosen people"

Is that Corbyn's "error" in Rabbi Sach's outburst in the "River's of Blood" comparison?

Suggested here. Interesting point of view.

https://www.redressonline.com/2018/09/jeremy-corbyn-and-the-jewish-question/
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tsunamiwarrior  Male  Hertfordshire 8-Apr-2019 20:25 Message #4738254
Steady on JustLyn. It’s only fair to warn you that one poster has demanded the demise of this thread and I doubt he will thank you for continuing to post. Disobey him at your peril as apparently he might call the police.
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tsunamiwarrior  Male  Hertfordshire 8-Apr-2019 20:27 Message #4738255
“Don't you think it odd, or even expected that all the mud slinging is raked up again and again when a GE is on the cards?” I don’t think the news regarding Corbyn’s misdemeanours ever went away.

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tsunamiwarrior  Male  Hertfordshire 8-Apr-2019 21:11 Message #4738256
“Don't you think it odd, or even expected that all the mud slinging is raked up again and again when a GE is on the cards?” I don’t think the news regarding Corbyn’s misdemeanours ever went away.
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Nigel_In_Devon  Male  Devon 8-Apr-2019 21:14 Message #4738257
"He threatened me with the police a few weeks ago. After he left the 'sex icon' message in a post telling me to get off my arse, I replied something like 'I'm going to stay on my arse if you are calling me a sex icon', and he then threatened me with the police."

Threatened with the Police? Oh how absolutely hilarious...and what a pathetic threat!

Has Corbyn had a sex change? If not, I don't understand how speaking against Corbyn is misogynistic. But then I'm ignorant so what would I know anyway?
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tsunamiwarrior  Male  Hertfordshire 8-Apr-2019 21:34 Message #4738258
Who knows these days Nigel. Is G2B male or female? Are we allowed to mention “sex icons” after the watershed hour?
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JustLyn  Female  Cheshire 8-Apr-2019 21:48 Message #4738259
Nigel,

I think it is Hierophants (and others) continuous jibes at me with the incessant "worship" thing that G2BW objected to.

I don't understand why G2BW was rude to you. It reads to me as misunderstanding on both sides.

In my view, any conversation can develop so going off track is a reasonable thing to do if it has a flow. It's just that there's a lot of self back patters and again, in my opinion attempts to devalue contribution of anyone, man or woman, who isn't part of their herd so im not sure misogynistic fits with the other adjectives in the list.
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JustLyn  Female  Cheshire 8-Apr-2019 21:50 Message #4738260
TW,

I think you were absent on the humourous connection to sex icon. There's a rational explanation in one of the threads. Innocent but hilarious.
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tsunamiwarrior  Male  Hertfordshire 8-Apr-2019 21:54 Message #4738261
My contribution was also humour :)
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Hierophant  Male  East Anglia 8-Apr-2019 22:06 Message #4738264
"I think it is Hierophants (and others) continuous jibes at me with the incessant "worship" thing that G2BW objected to. "

All warranted I would say.
I've been on here long enough to shrug off any criticism, jibe, name calling or whatever, I've also learnt that people often aren't who they pretend to be and a picture is no guarantee of anything.
So I will continue on my merry way, call me what you like, but don't get arsey if I return the compliment...
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Good2BWith  Male  West Yorkshire 8-Apr-2019 22:36 Message #4738267
tumbleweed 8-Apr-2019 15:40

It doesn't surprise me at all with G2B...It's what he does.
He deliberately trolls ( he is one of the main ones that people have been accusing of trolling ), and then if people fight back, he threatens things.
He threatened me with the police a few weeks ago. After he left the 'sex icon' message in a post telling me to get off my arse, I replied something like 'I'm going to stay on my arse if you are calling me a sex icon', and he then threatened me with the police.
I haven't heard from the police yet, so maybe he was just trolling again. I'm sure the police would laugh his case to oblivion, and hopefully charge him with wasting police time.


Oh dear, TumbleWeed
Yet again, either your memory is in a fast decline or, more likely, you have blatantly revized the actuality of the matter to which you refer. Calumnies come naturally to you, do they?
Years of practice, no doubt.

Do at least TRY to grasp onto reality and cease portraying yourself, by falsifying the truth, as some sort of (mock) martyr.

The Police are arresting and, via CPS, are taking action against online Hate Speakers.
I warned, not threatened, you about this, and the disrepute that you were bringing upon this Forum.
Something which the Mods and 'Helpers' might have been sensitive to?

You are well aware that neither did I mention informing the Police, nor justify your blatant homophobic attack.

Martyrs?? You and your associates are a throw-back to days long gone but encapsulated in amber as interesting specimens of the days when Hate Speech was de rigueur. Even to the extent of repeating and guffawing at "Hate" so-called jokes in mixed company.
So convinced were you of the current Political Correctness of your opinions that you utterly failed to see the acute embarrassment you were causing female and BAME members of the group.

Of course, if anyone HAD challenged you, you'd have brayed in their face that they "Couldn't take a joke." And brayed some more, like the ass you were.

Your days are passed, you're an iceberg stranded in mid-Pacific and melting away to nothing but a drip.
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tumbleweed  Male  Gloucestershire 8-Apr-2019 23:05 Message #4738268
G2B wrote Do at least TRY to grasp onto reality and cease portraying yourself, by falsifying the truth, as some sort of (mock) martyr.

The Police are arresting and, via CPS, are taking action against online Hate Speakers.
I warned, not threatened, you about this, and the disrepute that you were bringing upon this Forum.
Something which the Mods and 'Helpers' might have been sensitive to?


In thread RIP brexit, g2b wrote tumbleweed Sex icon 25-Mar-2019 19:36...Why don't you take your own advice and "Get off your backside and ..."?

Which he had mistakenly attributed that sentence to me, when it wasn't me.

He then was reminded by another poster that 'get off your backside...' was their post.

He then responded to me again with Correction

Why don't you take xxx's advice and "Get off your backside and ..."? ( xxx being the name of the other poster )


I then responded with G2b, I need to stay on my backside to protect it from you, by the sounds of it.

Then G2b responded with G2b, I need to stay on my backside to protect it from you, by the sounds of it.

An interpretation of your posting is that it is offensive, probably against the Rules of this Forum, and most importantly may well land you being investigated by the Police.
Your route out of your self-constructed mire is clear.
It is to be hoped that you avail yourself of that course of action as a matter of urgency.


That sounded like a threat to me, and at no point did you further explain your statement from your last post on this thread, The Police are arresting and, via CPS, are taking action against online Hate Speakers.
I warned, not threatened, you about this, and the disrepute that you were bringing upon this Forum.
Something which the Mods and 'Helpers' might have been sensitive to?


The CPS and hate speakers were never mentioned by you until tonight. So warning, not threatening, me about this, is not true
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Good2BWith  Male  West Yorkshire 8-Apr-2019 23:09 Message #4738269
Gilpin 5-Apr-2019 23:33
I reckon Corbyn belongs to the 'ban the bomb' era. And is still stuck there. The Cold War. Vietnam, and the average age of troopers being 19. Hiroshima and Nagasaki, and the Americans detonating 2 nuclear atom bombs that killed I've no idea how many. Peace and love was the mantra of the day, it was a huge thing. He seems like he has stayed in that mind frame, totally different from todays approach to who is killing whom.

I'm told on good authority that there are millions of ppl around the world who follow the "mind frame" of teachers who also had a "mantra" of Peace & Love. Many of whom were around some very considerable time ago - their words are still readily available in print form or even audio.

The ideals of Justice and Democracy in UK date back to long before the 1940s

Are you advocating dumping ALL such parts of the British way of life in favour of some Mayfly/ephemeral system of running society?
Yes or No?

If you reply, please do try very hard to differentiate between similes and metaphors. I've even attached a URL to help you in your onerous & possibly novel task.

https://www.grammarly.com/blog/whats-the-difference-between-a-simile-and-a-metaphor/
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HotOrWot  Male  Lancashire 8-Apr-2019 23:14 Message #4738270
I’ve noticed that whenever Corbyn has been cornered into condemning any terrorists he always adds something about western atrocities to the same sentence. Not an honest man by any means.

That is not just a ploy used by Corbyn but one also used by a couple of regular trolls on here.


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